Tigerbomb13 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 At this point I have to think they are doing something wrong with these pitchers, and it’s not just bad luck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: At this point I have to think they are doing something wrong with these pitchers, and it’s not just bad luck. Maybe too many hard breaking balls? Of course no-one in baseball management anywhere really wants to know. The Tigers generally don't want guys throwing more than 50% fastballs. But just a couple of high profile anecdotal cases, Max, a guy supposedly headed for arm trouble from the time he broke in, pretty much never throws more than 20% sliders. Justin Verlander never threw more than 22% sliders until 2019. The most sliders he threw was over 35% starting out 2021 and we know where that ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: At this point I have to think they are doing something wrong with these pitchers, and it’s not just bad luck. There are no hitters and they are breaking all of the pitchers. Other than that, not a bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) I mentioned this in the 08/09 game thread, but its time to put Cabrera on the IL. Management needs to do the right thing and stock the roster with players that are capable, at least in terms of health and conditioning, of playing the game. Its great that they called up Carpenter. I'm not necessarily upset about Cameron being demoted. But it seems odd to have to carry a player on the roster that is barely in enough shape to populate the batter's box 4 times a game. As has been mentioned, his right knee is preventing him from getting any sort of drive into his swings. He cannot run. He cannot field. The team is essentially going with 12 position players. He is a detriment to the team. He is obviously in pain right now. He should be placed on the IL. Grow a spine, send a message, get into basic conditioning for next season, or just send him on his way. Edited August 10, 2022 by casimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Is Daniel Norris back with the Tigers? I missed that fact, just saw in the Free Press that he's in Toledo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Is Daniel Norris back with the Tigers? I missed that fact, just saw in the Free Press that he's in Toledo? off waivers from Cubs; building him up to be September starter when young guys hit pitch limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 hours ago, casimir said: I mentioned this in the 08/09 game thread, but its time to put Cabrera on the IL. Management needs to do the right thing and stock the roster with players that are capable, at least in terms of health and conditioning, of playing the game. Its great that they called up Carpenter. I'm not necessarily upset about Cameron being demoted. But it seems odd to have to carry a player on the roster that is barely in enough shape to populate the batter's box 4 times a game. As has been mentioned, his right knee is preventing him from getting any sort of drive into his swings. He cannot run. He cannot field. The team is essentially going with 12 position players. He is a detriment to the team. He is obviously in pain right now. He should be placed on the IL. Grow a spine, send a message, get into basic conditioning for next season, or just send him on his way. I couldn’t agree more. Time for a heart to heart talk. He is only eroding his legacy. Take a bow and call it a day. All the handicap parking spaces are full. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Norris starts tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Norris starts tomorrow So there’s still a chance that the Tigers cash in on that David Price trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 LOL, Willi Castro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: LOL, Willi Castro That’s a great Twitter name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: LOL, Willi Castro Isn't Sportz involved in that account? I'm not surprised, if so, that he switches between different stats and cherry picks to make a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: Norris starts tomorrow odds are he will self-destruct again once he's on an MLB mound. I hope not, but I think for Norris it's always been between the ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 It's ok. Not much difference between losing 3-2 or 13-2. Can't score without Lou in attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Some good news, hopefully everything goes well and he'll be back here by the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: Norris starts tomorrow Deja Vu all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Edman85 said: Isn't Sportz involved in that account? I'm not surprised, if so, that he switches between different stats and cherry picks to make a point. I don't think Sportz is involved with that account. Anyway, I have noticed that whoever runs it is not especially knowledgeable about the game. I think it might be a kid. Edited August 11, 2022 by Tiger337 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: odds are he will self-destruct again once he's on an MLB mound. I hope not, but I think for Norris it's always been between the ears. I have thought the same thing for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Final line 53 pitches, 39 strikes. 5 IP, 1H 0R 1BB 6K maybe one more rehab start since he only threw 53? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Final line 53 pitches, 39 strikes. 5 IP, 1H 0R 1BB 6K maybe one more rehab start since he only threw 53? From the official site: LHP Eduardo Rodriguez (personal) Expected return: Possibly week of Aug. 15 Rodriguez is scheduled to throw four innings or 70-75 pitches on Thursday in his first of two or three rehab starts for Triple-A Toledo. He tossed three innings of one-run ball on three hits with five strikeouts Saturday in a rehab start for Single-A Lakeland. (Last updated: Aug. 9) Edited August 12, 2022 by Tigermojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) On 8/9/2022 at 5:27 PM, Tigerbomb13 said: At this point I have to think they are doing something wrong with these pitchers, and it’s not just bad luck. there is one other possibility that would be very sad if true but the Tatis suspension can't help but surface it: If there is a newfangled 'designer' drug PED cocktail making the rounds in the league that has been so far undetected/undetectable, and Tiger pitchers have used it, tendon/ligament issues are always a possible side effect with that class of drug- especially if there might be 'designer' compounds in use that haven't been through rigorous clinical trials. No-one would want this to be true, but it would be naive to think it's not possible. Edited August 13, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 https://www.mlb.com/gameday/tigers-vs-white-sox/2022/08/12/661384#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=661384 Unacceptable. There's no reason a baseball player shouldn't have legged this out and gotten themselves on as the tying run in a 2-0 baseball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 That looks like he did leg it out... Everyone knows Miggy don't run no 4.4 40 anymore, right? More like a 12.4 40 once he gets up to top speed after a 20-step build-up to get his massive freight train of a body up to cruising speed... At best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: That looks like he did leg it out... Everyone knows Miggy don't run no 4.4 40 anymore, right? More like a 12.4 40 once he gets up to top speed after a 20-step build-up to get his massive freight train of a body up to cruising speed... At best. Oh, I apologize, its perfectly acceptable to have a one legged DH. Please proceed with the Cabrera slobberfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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