2022 DETROIT TIGERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD

[Jim Cowan]

1 hour ago, Biff Mayhem said:

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=duboibr01

When I saw that I thought "don't you mean Brian DuBose?  Who never reached the majors?"  But no they are two different guys and Brian Dubois' existence had somehow eluded me until just now.

[Motor City Sonics]

35 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

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EXACTLY MY FEELINGS!  YOU NAILED IT !

[Tiger337]

My favorite Brian Dubois moment was when Sparky Anderson came out to the mound to take him out of the game in his first start.  Anderson extended his arm to take the ball before saying anything like he always did.  Dubois thought he was offering a handshake, so he shook his hand.  Catcher Mike Heath started laughing.  

Edited April 27, 2022 by Tiger337

[CMRivdogs]

First Tiger player would have probably been Art James who is about a week younger than me

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=jamesar01

Closest regular for a season or so Jim Morrison 

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=morriji01

You could also throw Mike Ivie and Dan Meyer into that category

 

[1984Echoes]

Are you doing this by the first debut in MLB of a player younger than you?

(I get Dwight Gooden! Who debuted in 1984 at the age of 19 and was 8 months younger than me...)

Or the first MLB Player younger than you regardless of when he debuted in MLB?

(I'm one day younger than Will Clark and 4 days older than Jeff Hamilton (meh) who debuted in 1986...)

 

[Jim Cowan]

The first time the Tigers had a player younger than you.

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Jim Cowan said:

The first time the Tigers had a player younger than you.

Jason Thompson, Fidrych and Frank McCormick are all younger and debuted in '76. Thompson was 2 months closer in age, but Fidrych made his first start on Apr20 and Thompson didn't play his first game until Apr 23, so I guess mine would be Fidrych Apr 20, 1976. McCormick's first game was not until July.

Edited April 27, 2022 by gehringer_2

[bobrob2004]

3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Are you doing this by the first debut in MLB of a player younger than you?

(I get Dwight Gooden! Who debuted in 1984 at the age of 19 and was 8 months younger than me...)

Or the first MLB Player younger than you regardless of when he debuted in MLB?

(I'm one day younger than Will Clark and 4 days older than Jeff Hamilton (meh) who debuted in 1986...)

 

I have the same birthdate as Brennan Boesch.  

[Jim Cowan]

49 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

I have the same birthdate as Brennan Boesch.  

OK, at the time of his debut was there anyone younger on the team?

[gehringer_2]

this is so similar to last season it almost freaky. A couple of good games the first week then into the tank. Just the cast has changed. Last April it was Cabrera, Jones, Mazara, Goodrum, Reyes that all slumped out of the gate.

Edited April 28, 2022 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

this is so similar to last season it almost freaky. A couple of good games the first week then into the tank. Just the cast has changed. Last April it was Cabrera, Jones, Mazara, Goodrum, Reyes that all slumped out of the gate.

They are basically a more talented version of last year's team. The Mazaras and Ramos and Joneses are gone, but the results are still ugly

[bobrob2004]

15 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

OK, at the time of his debut was there anyone younger on the team?

Several.  Alex Avila, Austin Jackson and Rick Porcello to name a few. 

Andrew Miller is younger and he made his debut 4 years earlier. 

[Jim Cowan]

14 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

Several.  Alex Avila, Austin Jackson and Rick Porcello to name a few. 

Andrew Miller is younger and he made his debut 4 years earlier. 

OK so the question is: who was the Tigers player that was younger than you, the first time that the Tigers had a player on the team that was younger than you were?

[casimir]

5 hours ago, Jim Cowan said:

The first time the Tigers had a player younger than you.

The translation from Canadian to American is tricky.

[1984Echoes]

5 hours ago, Jim Cowan said:

The first time the Tigers had a player younger than you.

Gotcha...

A little research says May 15th, 1986 when Eric King debuted.

Not certain when he was rostered by the Tigers, it wasn't opening day roster...

[bobrob2004]

53 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

OK so the question is: who was the Tigers player that was younger than you, the first time that the Tigers had a player on the team that was younger than you were?

That would be Andrew Miller.

[chasfh]

Launch angle says who? We’ve had wins in our four lowest average launch angle games and losses in our seven highest launch angle games.

 

[casimir]

18 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Launch angle says who? We’ve had wins in our four lowest average launch angle games and losses in our seven highest launch angle games.

 

I don't know how launch angle might relate to ISO & SLG.  I was looking over team stats on bbref, and it seems like the glaring thing for the Tigers so far this season is the power just isn't there (which we've realized).  But a lot of other hitting & pitching ratios see the Tigers are hovering around league average (which might be a bit of a surprise), sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower, but nothing egregious.

[chasfh]

54 minutes ago, casimir said:

I don't know how launch angle might relate to ISO & SLG.  I was looking over team stats on bbref, and it seems like the glaring thing for the Tigers so far this season is the power just isn't there (which we've realized).  But a lot of other hitting & pitching ratios see the Tigers are hovering around league average (which might be a bit of a surprise), sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower, but nothing egregious.

I did notice that Miggy has barrel and hard hit rates that are higher than league average, but his average launch angle is something like 5.8%. So I guess that means he’s shooting singles between fielders sometimes and making faster groundouts other times. 

[gehringer_2]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I did notice that Miggy has barrel and hard hit rates that are higher than league average, but his average launch angle is something like 5.8%. So I guess that means he’s shooting singles between fielders sometimes and making faster groundouts other times. 

I think launch angle will be a more complicated analysis for Cabrera. When you inside out the ball the way Cabrera does, you tend to hit it in the air more. At this point in his career, this is his preference as he has more time (ball can travel deeper and that other analyst drivel). To combat that, they are pitching him inside more now, on the theory (and it's the conventional one for any older hitter) that he can't get around and take the ball to left as well. But when you go to the pull field you don't get the loft you get going to right as naturally. When he goes to right, he drops the bat head under the path of the ball. Going to left, he tends to swing level or down on it more. Observationally, I would agree that it looks like Cabrera has stung a good number of hard grounders to short and 3rd so far this season. Long story short, I would bet that with Cabrera his launch angle will correlate with his R/L field %.

You can see the evidence for this in that teams often shift Cabrera to the pull side on the IF and the opposite side in the OF. Though when Cabrera is 'on' he can beat that on the ground to right anyway. Which, BTW, can get you to the HOF. 

Edited April 28, 2022 by gehringer_2

[IdahoBert]

I am not a happy camper

[1776]

Not really sure where to put this and am pretty sure most everyone has already seen this dated article on the The Bird. Really good read for Tiger fans looking for something to smile about these days.
 

https://vault.si.com/vault/2001/07/02/mark-fidrych-in-1976-the-bird-flew-into-baseball-free-of-guile-a-little-bit-gullible-and-absolutely-lovable-twenty-five-years-later-hes-the-same-rare-bird

[gehringer_2]

Been looking for anything about Mize or Manning. Haven't seen anything since the 26th when Evan Woodbery reported Mize was beginning to throw but Manning was not.

[gehringer_2]

On 4/27/2022 at 9:19 PM, Jim Cowan said:

OK so the question is: who was the Tigers player that was younger than you, the first time that the Tigers had a player on the team that was younger than you were?

Funny thing is that at the time I never gave that a thought, what I did notice is when I was older than ALL the players on the field! 👨‍🦳

[mtutiger]

44 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Been looking for anything about Mize or Manning. Haven't seen anything since the 26th when Evan Woodbery reported Mize was beginning to throw but Manning was not.

Same with Riley Greene