IdahoBert Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I haven’t been paying a lot of attention — I’ve been sick most of this month — and I only just now realized we’re in a new deadball era. I’m going back to the beginning of May on this thread because I assume that’s where the discussion might take place. But if anybody wants to summarize what’s going on with that and if that’s one of the reasons we’ve sucked I would appreciate it. Has MLB over corrected? I know Chuck @chasfhhas done some extensive research on the nature of the ball these last few years and I’m wondering if our hitters who seemingly over performed last year are underperforming in relation to the ball. I’m sure there’s other things like regression to the mean etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatikIEV Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) I know he was serving as the 27th man, but does it just feel wrong to return him to Toledo when he exited the game injured while throwing the shutout? Also, how does that work...do they ask him if he is ok, then have him sign a form/waiver to go back down?Seems like if you are injured on the pro team, you'd have the benefit associated with that level (medical and service time) until you are cleared? I confess I'm not sure how that works in this situation as the 27th man. Edited June 1, 2022 by StatikIEV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 A Dombrowski built team with a terrible bullpen? That can't be right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 We need Franklin Perez to once again establish himself as a prospect to bring a sense of balance to this season of injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 So it wasn't just pissed off Tigers fans https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/umpire-hunter-wendelstedt-missed-call-video-strikeout-tigers-twins-mlb-fans-reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: So it wasn't just pissed off Tigers fans https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/umpire-hunter-wendelstedt-missed-call-video-strikeout-tigers-twins-mlb-fans-reaction Jack Morris had a very muted criticism of it. 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: Jack Morris had a very muted criticism of it. 😏 Did he talk about what he used to do in the 80s when umpires made bad calls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Did he talk about what he used to do in the 80s when umpires made bad calls? No, but then, I think Morris might have been conflicted on whether the call was actually bad. EDIT: To be clear, I’m kidding about Morris being conflicted as a pitcher versus a hitter, not Morris as a Twin vs a Tiger. Edited June 1, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 Baseball job open locally for anyone interested. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/instagraphs/job-posting-detroit-tigers-data-quality-engineer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) I watched the video and the call was atrocious. Equally surprising was Hinch’s oblivious non reaction to it. Did I miss something? Edited June 1, 2022 by 1776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: Baseball job open locally for anyone interested. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/instagraphs/job-posting-detroit-tigers-data-quality-engineer/ I’ll get excited when they have an open GM position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 Well played, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 TBH, one terrible call is not the worst. Umps blink, hiccup, whatever, missing ONE call once in a while can be expected in any human endeavor, it's the umps that miss ten or twelve in a game or shift their zone during a game etc, and so tilt the outcome that are unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 11 hours ago, IdahoBert said: I haven’t been paying a lot of attention — I’ve been sick most of this month — and I only just now realized we’re in a new deadball era. I’m going back to the beginning of May on this thread because I assume that’s where the discussion might take place. But if anybody wants to summarize what’s going on with that and if that’s one of the reasons we’ve sucked I would appreciate it. Has MLB over corrected? I know Chuck @chasfhhas done some extensive research on the nature of the ball these last few years and I’m wondering if our hitters who seemingly over performed last year are underperforming in relation to the ball. I’m sure there’s other things like regression to the mean etc. I was wondering whether I could easily and quickly cut through last year’s and this year’s Statcast data to see whether I can locate some key differences, but that might take me the rest of the year, given my general lack of capabilities (i.e., Excel and nothing else). Tell you which slugger is doing just fine, though: our old buddy J.D. Martinez. In a league where batting averages are dropping like toilet floats, he’s basically leading the league in batting average, hitting around .360. But how he’s gotten there is a big deal: he’s changed the launch angle profile of his hitting so that his line drive rate is by far the highest of his career (31% vs previous high of 24%), and his fly ball rate is down to a career low of 32% (down from recent seasons over 40%). This is just one anecdotal example, but it is a clear indication of how a hard hitter can adjust his swing and still crush it in a new deader-ball environment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: TBH, one terrible call is not the worst. Umps blink, hiccup, whatever, missing ONE call once in a while can be expected in any human endeavor, it's the umps that miss ten or twelve in a game or shift their zone during a game etc, and so tilt the outcome that are unacceptable. I have long wondered how much a strike three call on a pitch that’s obviously out of the zone has to do with an umpire being annoyed when a batter presumes ball four and starts trotting toward first before the umpire makes the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 There are few things on this forum that bring me as much joy as when Chuck comments on Jack Morris. I'm not being facetious, I really enjoy it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said: There are few things on this forum that bring me as much joy as when Chuck comments on Jack Morris. I'm not being facetious, I really enjoy it. I tried to give you a laugh face on this but somehow I am already out of reactions on a day I haven’t given any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsb623 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 If the 2021 version of Nomar Mazara was on this years Tigers, he would be leading the team in RBI's right now. 🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I will say a nice thing about Al, the depth of this m.a.s.h unit pitching staff has been really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davidsb623 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 With today's victory, the Tigers move to 15-15 at home AND 11-11 versus AL Central teams. The latter being huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biff Mayhem Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Galarraga and Joyce, later, showed us what grace is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Still heartbreaking to this day. Brutal call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said: Galarraga and Joyce, later, showed us what grace is. Indeed. That's what I take away from the game. That and Galarraga is the only pitcher to throw a 28 out perfect game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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