2022 DETROIT TIGERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD

[Motor City Sonics]

Can't wait for the headline of the Seattle Mariners making it to the World Series - FINALLY, because of the stellar play of Derek Hill.     

[romad1]

I'm sick of the negativity.  I'm sick of this team being a negative drain on my life. 

Get your shiz together Chris I and bring us a real GM.

[mtutiger]

Normally not a "we need to claim this guy" kinda guy... But I'd take a flyer here

[casimir]

13 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Normally not a "we need to claim this guy" kinda guy... But I'd take a flyer here

I saw this and thought the same.  Put Cabrera on the IL, let Reyes get the DH role for a bit.

[Tigerbomb13]

15 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Normally not a "we need to claim this guy" kinda guy... But I'd take a flyer here

He’s bad, but would likely be one of our best players. Just keep him away from Coolbaugh. 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, casimir said:

I saw this and thought the same.  Put Cabrera on the IL, let Reyes get the DH role for a bit.

Tigers are #2 in waiver priority, so they would likely have the opportunity... He's had a bad year and Ks too much, but this team badly needs needs someone who can hit for power. Not just for the rest of this year but next year as well

[casimir]

21 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Tigers are #2 in waiver priority, so they would likely have the opportunity... He's had a bad year and Ks too much, but this team badly needs needs someone who can hit for power. Not just for the rest of this year but next year as well

His BB% and HR% are down considerably and his SO% is up considerably.  I don’t trust the hitting coaches, but it’s worth a try for the rest of this season.

[Jim Cowan]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Normally not a "we need to claim this guy" kinda guy... But I'd take a flyer here

He has that Pedro Cerrano vibe.

[mtutiger]

Mechanical Man has a point...

[1984Echoes]

36 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Mechanical Man has a point...

I would say right on point...

[4hzglory]

5 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Mechanical Man has a point...

I was only 9 at the time, but was at the Double Header when they retired Greenberg and Gehringer’s numbers.  How I wish I had kept the poster they gave out rather than hanging it in my “fort”.

[oblong]

6 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Mechanical Man has a point...

I was at that game. I didn’t really know what was going on but I remember it.  I was thinking “who are these old guys?  Let’s get the game going”.  To think I saw those players up close. We had seats behind the dugout. Dang. 

[RatkoVarda]

FG mentions that AJ could replace Al; I guess with Lombard as manager 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/sunday-notes-detroits-next-gm-might-be-in-the-dugout/

[mtutiger]

23 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

FG mentions that AJ could replace Al; I guess with Lombard as manager 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/sunday-notes-detroits-next-gm-might-be-in-the-dugout/

Somebody has been reading MTS... Chas and I have both mentioned this in the past iirc

[buddha]

AJ's agent getting out in front of this mess?

[RandyMarsh]

I wouldn't be against it but I think Id rather get a fresh face from outside the organization, particularly one like the Cardinals or Dodgers.

Edited August 8, 2022 by RandyMarsh

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

AJ's agent getting out in front of this mess?

As interesting as it sounds, the blurb reads as uninformed speculation.

[Tenacious D]

9 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Somebody has been reading MTS... Chas and I have both mentioned this in the past iirc

Any precedent for this?  Not sure how managerial skills transfer.

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Any precedent for this?  Not sure how managerial skills transfer.

Before becoming manager in Houston, AJ had gained some front office experience over the years with AZ/SD, enough to say he has skills in both areas.

I'm kinda with RandyMarsh though, seems better to bring in someone from the outside. But going with AJ would at least be better than status quo anyway.

Edited August 8, 2022 by mtutiger

[bobrob2004]

I'm all for trying the Hinch as GM experiment.  It means having a new GM and a new manager, which they desperately need.  

[chasfh]

“Uninformed speculation” seems a little harsh. It’s not as though nobody has ever talked about Hinch as a GM so Laurila must be pulling it out of his butt; and he did qualify it about as much as he needed to to keep it from coming off as a prediction. That said, Hinch is on record from decades ago as wanting to eventually be a GM, and he does have front office experience already, so while there doesn’t appear to be any leaks suggesting such a move might be imminent, it’s not completely unfounded to speculate that Hinch could end up not only leading some front office, but this one.

Right now, the Tigers have three assistant GMs in David Chadd, Sam Menzin, and Jay Sartori which, I don’t know how common that is, but seems a bit odd to me. I think the odds that one of the three will succeed Avila is high, and given the stark difference in approach between Chadd (a Leyland compatriot) and the other two (data science-driven), the stakes for the future of the franchise of choosing the right replacement seems really, really high to me.

[romad1]

AJ is the closest to Dave Dombrowski we have.  I'd rather have Dave but, it would be preferable to Al. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I'm kinda with RandyMarsh though, seems better to bring in someone from the outside

I think I am too. Go the Lions route. Don't just turn the page, get a new book.

(now watch the Lions go down the tubes again.......)

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

“Uninformed speculation” seems a little harsh. It’s not as though nobody has ever talked about Hinch as a GM so Laurila must be pulling it out of his butt; and he did qualify it about as much as he needed to to keep it from coming off as a prediction. That said, Hinch is on record from decades ago as wanting to eventually be a GM, and he does have front office experience already, so while there doesn’t appear to be any leaks suggesting such a move might be imminent, it’s not completely unfounded to speculate that Hinch could end up not only leading some front office, but this one.

Agreed, it's speculation but not completely uninformed. My bad.

My response was more in regards to buddha's comment about AJ's agent getting out in front of this mess... I suspect that's going to someone like Rosenthal or Passan if that's the case, not to a writer at Fangraphs.

[Tenacious D]

If we think AJ is a flawed manager, I don’t want to fix it by moving him to the front office.  That’s classic corporate America.

I’m in the camp of going external for a GM and let that individual determine who is the best manager.

After watching the Whitaker ceremony, and Avila and Ilitch’s muted roles, I’m feeling better that a change is coming.  They aren’t oblivious to what fan sentiment is—getting rid of Avila allows Ilitch to start to restore his public persona, if that matters to him.  If you’ll recall, Mike was a pariah for a while, but he was able to turn that around, starting with bringing Dombrowski in and opening up his wallet. Of course, winning ultimately fixes everything.