4/15 @ 8:10 Tigers @ Royals

[gehringer_2]

12 up, 12 down. So far this one is shaping up as a real barn-burner.

[lordstanley]

Fwiw, when Spencer Turnbull went on 10-day DL last year it was for “forearm strain”  

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/tigers-spencer-turnbull-likely-out-until-after-break/

[Edman85]

1 minute ago, lordstanley said:

Fwiw, when Spencer Turnbull went on 10-day DL last year it was for “forearm strain”  

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/tigers-spencer-turnbull-likely-out-until-after-break/

Well once the ligament goes, the muscles (flexors) start to pick up the slack. This is common.

Elbow sprain is straight up ligament damage. It may not be bad enough to need TJ. But it is, by definition, elbow ligament damage.

[gehringer_2]

Skubal throwing off-speed for strikes in some FB counts. Nice to see the Tiger pitcher doing that to the opposition instead of vice versa!

[Dtrain72]

My way too early in the season hot take is that Skuval and Manning both look better than Mize just by watching them in comparison.

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Well once the ligament goes, the muscles (flexors) start to pick up the slack. This is common.

Elbow sprain is straight up ligament damage. It may not be bad enough to need TJ. But it is, by definition, elbow ligament damage.

So, can we assume that he sprained it in his last start?  When you sprain something, you usually know it right away and I don't think he could continue pitching.

Edited April 16, 2022 by Tiger337

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

so Báez hurt his thumb on opening day when he was trying to keep Gatorade from getting dumped on him? yeesh.

I guess it's better than octopus-throwing, Guitar Hero, or moving, but still.

Edited April 16, 2022 by Crazy Cat Gentleman

[lordstanley]

Dan on the radio broadcast just said that Baez’ thumb injury dates back to the Opening Day celebration. He was trying to get out of the way of getting Gatorade dumped on him. Maybe that’s been reported elsewhere but first I heard that. 

[lordstanley]

It’s going to be a great debate when Keller gets pulled after 7 innings with a no-hitter going and Skubal gets pulled after 7 innings with a perfect game going. 

[Dtrain72]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

so Báez hurt his thumb on opening day when he was trying to keep Gatorade from getting dumped on him? yeesh.

Sounds Lion-esque.

[Edman85]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

So, can we assume that he sprained it in his last start?  When you sprain something, you usually know it right away and I don't think he could continue pitching.

The elbow is different from the ankle. Especially a pitcher's elbow, which is sore every 5 or 6 days.

[Hart]

If Skubal ends up looking like an ace this year and Mize ends up disappointing (either thru injury, performance, or both), is that a win for the Tigers?   What is the expected hit rate on top pitching prospects?  If we get 1 front end guy, 1 average starter, and 1 fringe starter/long reliever out of the trio of Mize, Skubal, and Manning, is that okay?  

[TigerNation]

Robo umps can't come soon enough.

[gehringer_2]

do any umpires in this crew know what a strike is?

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

Just now, TigerNation said:

Robo umps can't come soon enough.

I'd be happy enough just replacing Bucknor, West, and Hernandez with them.

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, Hart said:

If Skubal ends up looking like an ace this year and Mize ends up disappointing (either thru injury, performance, or both), is that a win for the Tigers?   What is the expected hit rate on top pitching prospects?  If we get 1 front end guy, 1 average starter, and 1 fringe starter/long reliever out of the trio of Mize, Skubal, and Manning, is that okay?  

If they get one ace out of this group, it's a win.   I would consider your scenario a success.  

Edited April 16, 2022 by Tiger337

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

do any umpires in this crew know what a strike is?

TBF, Angel Hernandez has never really known.

[mtutiger]

So, Mize is gonna have TJ?

[Dtrain72]

4 minutes ago, Hart said:

If Skubal ends up looking like an ace this year and Mize ends up disappointing (either thru injury, performance, or both), is that a win for the Tigers?   What is the expected hit rate on top pitching prospects?  If we get 1 front end guy, 1 average starter, and 1 fringe starter/long reliever out of the trio of Mize, Skubal, and Manning, is that okay?  

Imo, getting one ace out and a solid starter out of the three would be good.  Of course if all three turned out great, well, that'd be great. But, historically, that's not how it usually goes. Kind of reminds me of the early Verlander, Bonderman, and Robertson years...alll three came on strong and were pretty hyped intially, but ultimately, Justin was really the only one that panned out. 

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dtrain72

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

TBF, Angel Hernandez has never really known.

Oh crap - didn't realize it was Hernandez but it figures he and Carlson would have been relegated to each other.

Edited April 16, 2022 by gehringer_2

[RandyMarsh]

I'm sure Baez makes that play.

[gehringer_2]

So the gatorade just cost Skubal his no-hitter.

[RandyMarsh]

Baez definitely makes that play!

[mtutiger]

Just bad defense... christ

[gehringer_2]

Harold boots two in a row. Fabulous.