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9 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Brown has a broader appeal than Bernie because he doesn't go around calling himself a democratic socialist. I think Brown would do well in northern and midwest states in a Dem Primary and struggle down south. I do believe he could be a serious contender though and would be a great general election candidate to go against Trump. Populism vs. populism. He finds ways to win in Ohio statewide when no other candidate for Senate or Governor do. So there is something to the guy, politically speaking, that keeps him ticking in a red state.

republicans will make sure to let everyone know he's a democratic socialist, whether he calls himself one or not.

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9 minutes ago, buddha said:

republicans will make sure to let everyone know he's a democratic socialist, whether he calls himself one or not.

They'd do that to any candidate, running for any office. That's no reason not to run Brown. I'm sure the anti-Sherrod TV ads in Ohio already do it and yet he still wins. They are running literal fascists for office, so if they want to call Dem candidates socialists, whatever. Democrats and their campaign teams need to be able to punch back about the literal right-wing fascist, Trump sycophant's they are running on their side.

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4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Speaking of spending money to change names? UM hospital changed their name to Michigan Medicine and spent millions of dollars doing it. And then raised tuition to pay for it.

actually the hospital budget is completely separate from the rest of the U. If they make money it doesn't come back the academic units and if they lose money it doesn't get made up from there.

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11 minutes ago, buddha said:

republicans will make sure to let everyone know he's a democratic socialist, whether he calls himself one or not.

They would say that even if Joe Manchin won the Democratic nomination. 

I think Sherrod Brown would make a great candidate at the national level. I would have to see his breakdown in Ohio. Does he do well in Cleveland or is he like Klobuchar who over performs in rural Minnesota but is so-so in Minneapolis? Could also nominate Tim Ryan who has similar Sherrod Brown qualities. His run for senate will be a good barometer on whether he is viable or not. 

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1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

They would say that even if Joe Manchin won the Democratic nomination. 

I think Sherrod Brown would make a great candidate at the national level. I would have to see his breakdown in Ohio. Does he do well in Cleveland or is he like Klobuchar who over performs in rural Minnesota but is so-so in Minneapolis? Could also nominate Tim Ryan who has similar Sherrod Brown qualities. His run for senate will be a good barometer on whether he is viable or not. 

yeah, but it wont stick to kloubachar, or biden, or joe manchin.

it will stick to brown.

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Brown is the only Democrat to win statewide office in Ohio in the past decade. He won on the same ballot that Mike DeWine won on. I don't think any socialist attacks will stick. He seems to be able to thread the needle with progressives and moderates. Ironically, all the talk about getting younger, Brown will be 72 by the 2024 election. 

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56 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Polis made some waves recently somewhat declaring Colorado is done with Covid.  Seems to be center right and fits one of the necessary boxes for a Dem (he's gay), but he's also rich and jewish.

Assuming he scores a good reelection in a tough environment, Polis may be the best positioned.

The added wrinkle is that relationships with the AA community are critical in the Democratic Party. I have no idea where Polis stands there. But all else equal, he's acquitted himself well lately imo

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54 minutes ago, buddha said:

being on the side of opening back up will endear you to the mlderates but will alienate the covid crazys and the LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE people.  however, i think that could help someone like polis as a moderate dem.

Of course, with the "2024 is a long way away" caveat 😉

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10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Brown is the only Democrat to win statewide office in Ohio in the past decade. He won on the same ballot that Mike DeWine won on. I don't think any socialist attacks will stick. He seems to be able to thread the needle with progressives and moderates. Ironically, all the talk about getting younger, Brown will be 72 by the 2024 election. 

I actually agree with you on this one... Brown is probably the one progressive candidate who can break through nationally imo.

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21 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Since we're speculating, you've got to consider Mitch Landrieu (I know a mayor hasn't won in forever), Roy Cooper (NC) he's won every time he's run in a pink state.

 

I was hoping Landrieu would have done some public resume building after NOLA because I liked what I had seen of him so far.

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2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I was hoping Landrieu would have done some public resume building after NOLA because I liked what I had seen of him so far.

He's the administration's senior advisor for implementing the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. He assumed the role in mid November 

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1 hour ago, buddha said:

he's going to be in his 80s.  i think that's too old to be president.  

biden got elected because he wasnt a crazy democrat and he wasnt donald trump.  i dont know if those are the dynamics of the next election.

 

80s is probably too old but when the opponent is nut job Trump why do any personal characteristics even matter?  

He still isn't Donald Trump and that is always going to be a factor as long as that dbag is on the ballot.  He still isn't a crazy democrat, although he might be seen that way because of inflation (not his fault) and COVID mananagement. 

  

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33 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Assuming he scores a good reelection in a tough environment, Polis may be the best positioned.

The added wrinkle is that relationships with the AA community are critical in the Democratic Party. I have no idea where Polis stands there. But all else equal, he's acquitted himself well lately imo

i dont know if "white jewish dude" from colorado is going to make a ton of waves with black folks.

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4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

He's the administration's senior advisor for implementing the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. He assumed the role in mid November 

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Since he started on the gig, the administration has deployed Landrieu as a key surrogate when Biden visits local communities to tout the benefits of his infrastructure package, and in the media. Ahead of Biden’s visit to Missouri Wednesday, Landrieu appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. Every time Biden travels to promote the infrastructure law, Landrieu connects with local TV anchors, regional newspapers and Black and rural radio stations, said a White House official. 

He’s also playing the role of emissary to local and state pols. Landrieu said he has met personally with 30 mayors and has reached out to every governor in the country. A White House official told us he has spoken directly to 18 governors, including seven Republicans. Some Democratic sources who spoke to us said Landrieu could be a good gateway to the South and would likely be welcomed more than others in the administration in red states. 

“He is everything that this White House isn't,” said the source with knowledge of administration dynamics, “with the exception of [counselor to the president, Steve] Ricchetti — accessible.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/12/10/mitch-please-495427

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1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Brown is the only Democrat to win statewide office in Ohio in the past decade. He won on the same ballot that Mike DeWine won on. I don't think any socialist attacks will stick. He seems to be able to thread the needle with progressives and moderates. Ironically, all the talk about getting younger, Brown will be 72 by the 2024 election. 

It seems like he’s been around forever, but he doesn’t look that old.

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