oblong Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I chuckled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: At no time did President Trump ever state covid was a hoax. That actually came from either the democrats or the liberal media playing politics and a bunch of uninformed people started believing it came directly from Trump. You are right. He didn't call it a hoax. He said something to the effect that Democrat's ctitique of his management of the pandemic was a hoax. He was rambling to his fans and wanted to use the word hoax because his people love it when he uses that word. So, he just threw it in there nonsensically, because he's an idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Deltacron is by far the coolest sounding variant name so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: You are right.... I usually am. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: yeah - the right's idea that you can reduce the role of government is basically a chimera. Work on making it work better, stop with the fantasy that's it's the enemy or that it's going to go away - it's a counter-productive waste of energy. If the government is the enemy in a democracy that means the people are the enemy - it just makes no sense as political theory. And when you take the corruption out of it, it usually runs a lot better than we're led to believe. All these anti government people don't seem to have a problem with having roads to drive on, clean water to drink (usually), city services that they take for granted...........all things that, in most communities, run pretty well. It usually only really goes bad when some greedy asshole starts diverting things. Plus all these anti-Socialists probably didn't send back their stimulus checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: All these anti government people don't seem to have a problem with ... The military. I mean, we do all agree that the military is funded by, and ultimately controlled by our government/ civilian leadership, right? How about a Post Office/ postal service for everyone that for the most part, delivers all our mail. How about NASA... because space is just... so cool. How about our local Police & Fire Departments, which are not private businesses but are run by... the local government. When someone says they "hate government, or our government" or something like that... the very first thing that pops out of my mouth is "Oh, so you HATE our military, right?" They change their story immediately. Every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: The military. I mean, we do all agree that the military is funded by, and ultimately controlled by our government/ civilian leadership, right? How about a Post Office/ postal service for everyone that for the most part, delivers all our mail. How about NASA... because space is just... so cool. How about our local Police & Fire Departments, which are not private businesses but are run by... the local government. When someone says they "hate government, or our government" or something like that... the very first thing that pops out of my mouth is "Oh, so you HATE our military, right?" They change their story immediately. Every single time. Many Republicans have long wanted to privatize the USPS and NASA. Dick Cheney also actively worked to undermine and get rid of public television, PBS. Remember, the Bush Administration also tried privatizing a portion of the Iraq War security efforts by utilizing private contractors, like the now defunct Blackwater Security. Edited January 10, 2022 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Archie said: At no time did President Trump ever state covid was a hoax. That actually came from either the democrats or the liberal media playing politics and a bunch of uninformed people started believing it came directly from Trump. It’ll be over by Easter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, casimir said: It’ll be over by Easter. Trump says US will have 'substantially under' 100,000 deaths from coronavirus, lower than initial estimates "The minimum number was 100,000 lives and I think we'll be substantially under that number," Trump said during a White House press conference. "Hard to believe that if you had 60,000, you can never be happy, but that's a lot fewer than we were originally told and thinking." I swear, people just memory-hole this stuff... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Trump says US will have 'substantially under' 100,000 deaths from coronavirus, lower than initial estimates "The minimum number was 100,000 lives and I think we'll be substantially under that number," Trump said during a White House press conference. "Hard to believe that if you had 60,000, you can never be happy, but that's a lot fewer than we were originally told and thinking." I swear, people just memory-hole this stuff... Surely the media created a hologram of his image and voice that delivered that message. Where’s Stan when we need him to explain this to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408 ‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 the policy to not get the virus was to get the virus. 🙄🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Over 200 people at my company have gotten COVID and that is with about 90% of the company working remote. Still no vaccine mandate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 8:07 AM, oblong said: I have an intense dislike to talking to anything. I will never do it. If I get on a call and the menu says "Tell us how we can help you today, if you need help with....". I just start mashing all the buttons. I will never do it. But how will you know which department to connect with if you don’t listen to all of the options in their entirety as their menu has recently changed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 One part of my job is analyzing customer experience and the reputational risk and that also includes the automated phone system. On average, 45-50% of our calls can be handled through the automated system and don't even need to speak to an agent. If we didn't have an automated system, that means we would need to double the customer support staff and/or the customer would be on long waits. In my business, they are many specialties so routing customers to correct areas reducing transfers and hold time. Finally, our automated system is always being updated so the menu options do change regularly. I suspect that is the same with a lot of companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: One part of my job is analyzing customer experience and the reputational risk and that also includes the automated phone system. On average, 45-50% of our calls can be handled through the automated system and don't even need to speak to an agent. If we didn't have an automated system, that means we would need to double the customer support staff and/or the customer would be on long waits. In my business, they are many specialties so routing customers to correct areas reducing transfers and hold time. Finally, our automated system is always being updated so the menu options do change regularly. I suspect that is the same with a lot of companies. I don't mind if they say "push a button". I just detest the voice thing. Give me the option. "I'm sorry. I couldn't hear that. Let me repeat the options" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 8:17 PM, pfife said: This is pretty much standard now for ICU hospital Intensivists and Nurses. My wifes ICU has this same policy. You can't take a nurse off the floor and expect them to be able to take care of ICU patients, you have to work under another ICU nurse for at least 6 months maybe longer before you can take your own patient. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: This is pretty much standard now for ICU hospital Intensivists and Nurses. My wifes ICU has this same policy. You can't take a nurse off the floor and expect them to be able to take care of ICU patients, you have to work under another ICU nurse for at least 6 months maybe longer before you can take your own patient. only 3 people can do my wife's job in the ICU at her hospital. Medical professionals is not a one size fits all thing. You can't just transfer someone from another department. There's specialties. That's why the field hospitals didn't work. Anyone they would have been able to treat probably didn't really need to be in the hospital to begin with. It's not about mass casualty events like gunshots and trauma. If anyone could work in the field hospital then chances are they were already working in a brick and mortar hospital 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, oblong said: only 3 people can do my wife's job in the ICU at her hospital. Medical professionals is not a one size fits all thing. You can't just transfer someone from another department. There's specialties. That's why the field hospitals didn't work. Anyone they would have been able to treat probably didn't really need to be in the hospital to begin with. It's not about mass casualty events like gunshots and trauma. If anyone could work in the field hospital then chances are they were already working in a brick and mortar hospital I've noticed people in high up managing think engineering works this way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Edman85 said: I've noticed people in high up managing think engineering works this way too. Vicious circle. Sales based top managements tend to commoditize both R&D and Engineering - which leads to weak R&D and engineering departments, which leads to devaluation and further commoditization of R&D and Eng. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, oblong said: I don't mind if they say "push a button". I just detest the voice thing. Give me the option. "I'm sorry. I couldn't hear that. Let me repeat the options" There are very few things in the world more frustrating than that. If there is a hell I imagine it's an endless loop of that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 old enough to remember being told that medical rationing was a feature of socialist medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, pfife said: old enough to remember being told that medical rationing was a feature of socialist medicine I might or might not be as old as you, but I'm old enough to remember Obama Death Panels as well as the evils of Canadian-style socialist medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I might or might not be as old as you, but I'm old enough to remember Obama Death Panels as well as the evils of Canadian-style socialist medicine. ......and don't forget Obama's Tornado Machine. I have been mildly sick since Friday. Runny nose, lots of coughing (dry, nothing comes up) and my throat is raw, not really sore, but raw from all the coughing and throat clearing. Haven't been able to sleep well the last few days. I don't feel that bad, but I am very tired and annoyed. I went to a facility to get a test today. It was on the east side of Detroit because it was the only place I could get a same-day. Scheduled for 12:30, but I knew I would not be seen by 12:30, and yes there was a line. About 15 ahead of me. It took awhile but everyone kind of realized that it would, they expected it, but then..........you know who showed up, right......KAREN ! KAREN has an appointment for 1pm (it was 1:05) and Karen didn't think she should have to wait in line. EVERYONE had a timed appointment. But no, she started making demands that she is seen next. Everyone just kind of rolled their eyes, but I can tell you this, there is no way she was jumping the queue today. The aggravating part is her 10 minutes of Karening slowed everything down, but the funny part is that in the time she stood there doing her thing about 10 or 12 people came in and got in line......go to the back of the line........LOL. She was still there when I left about 1:45, about 10-15 people ahead of her. Everyone was chill about. it.........except her. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Such sad times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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