Tiger337 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Archie said: Where do you come up with this racist nonsense? Its 2022 not 1922. Racism still exists today. People are just a little more subtle about it. Quote
oblong Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 The question isn’t what Lebron thinks. It’s how certain aryan nation sympathizers react to what he thinks and whether he should keep his mouth shut and just play his sport while not suggesting a white athlete do the same. Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, buddha said: what's the difference between "shut up and dribble" and saying "shut up and play"? Given the original source of "shutup and dribble", it probably had racist intent. Quote
buddha Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: Given the original source of "shutup and dribble", it probably had racist intent. probably. otoh, its ok to tell lebron james to stfu sometimes. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Racism still exists today. People are just a little more subtle about it. America will remain a racist nation as long as it remains a segregated nation - that is the true test. And America today is not much less segregated today than in 1922. Quote
pfife Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Imagine purposefully misinterpreting what was obviously meant to lose a fight on the internet. Lmao Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Trumpers didn't seem to have a problem with Kyrie Irving. He wasn't told to shut up and dribble. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, ewsieg said: You probably shouldn't use LeBron as an example when you're talking about hypocrisy. Buddha brought him into it. And yes, he's an idiot too. For the exact incident you highlight. 50 minutes ago, ewsieg said: In his response, replace "Daryl Morey" with whoever you personally don't like the opinion of, and even if you aren't the one screaming at them to stay silent, someone on your side definitely is. And, whats your point exactly? Why is it my job to account for opinions I don't personally hold? Edited January 24, 2022 by mtutiger 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, oblong said: .... To suggest nothing is there is to be deliberately obtuse just for the sake or it.... Isn't the definition for Archie Bunker in Webster's Dictionary: "deliberately obtuse"? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Isn't the definition for Archie Bunker in Webster's Dictionary: "deliberately obtuse"? I think that's Samuel Norton. 1 Quote
oblong Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, buddha said: probably. otoh, its ok to tell lebron james to stfu sometimes. I see a difference between a rhetorical “shut up” as a argumentative device… like “ you are an idiot, you don’t know what you are talking about” vs “you shouldn’t be speaking up. It’s not your place. The adults are talking. You are just an athlete or movie star. You aren’t a serious person like us pundits on TV who study this all day”. The first is just ball busting among friends. The second is not and that’s what I see the ingraham types inferring to Lebron. 3 Quote
Jim Cowan Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Isn't the definition for Archie Bunker in Webster's Dictionary: "deliberately obtuse"? Careful now, you know what happened to Andy Dufresne when he called the warden "obtuse". Quote
1984Echoes Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Careful now, you know what happened to Andy Dufresne when he called the warden "obtuse". He dug through walls with his rock hammer to gain freedom. Quote
1984Echoes Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 15 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: I think that's Samuel Norton. Love that movie. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/ 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/ Quote
Edman85 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/ Neil Young also has some wacky antiscience songs on spotify. Not antivax bad, bit anti-GMO stuff isn't exactly backed by science. Quote
smr-nj Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, oblong said: Jesus. Wait, wasn’t that similar to the story line of the movie “Outbreak”? (1995) Quote
ewsieg Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 20 hours ago, mtutiger said: Buddha brought him into it. And yes, he's an idiot too. For the exact incident you highlight. And, whats your point exactly? Why is it my job to account for opinions I don't personally hold? I wasn't saying that you have to account for opinions you don't hold, nor the message. But, likely, you'll be more tolerant of the message, even if you don't agree with how it's delivered, if it's from a person you tend to agree with or it's an opinion you agree with. I just think that's natural for everyone, regardless if you lean to the left or right. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I wasn't saying that you have to account for opinions you don't hold, nor the message. But, likely, you'll be more tolerant of the message, even if you don't agree with how it's delivered, if it's from a person you tend to agree with or it's an opinion you agree with. I just think that's natural for everyone, regardless if you lean to the left or right. I'm pretty intolerant of LeBron's views on China and their actions against the Uyghurs, if that's what you are after. Not to mention the league as a whole. Quote
pfife Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/ sadly they're probably going to pick Rogan but h/t to Neil Young for trying. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Edman85 said: Neil Young also has some wacky antiscience songs on spotify. Not antivax bad, bit anti-GMO stuff isn't exactly backed by science. the GMO thing covers multiple of issues. I would agree there is little evidence that GMO food is harmful to consume, but the issue of whether it is harmful to the environment to grow it is a different question. e.g - If engineering crops to resist glyphosate results in more massive quantities of glyphosate being pumped into the environment where it 'overflows' into other systems where it is toxic, you may still believe with justification that there is a problem with GMO. Edited January 25, 2022 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
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