Tiger337 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Yeah, the CDC and the FDA. Whenever someone brings up the FDA, I always ask..." you mean the same FDA that approved and allowed all of those opiates on the market?" Prolly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. One of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made. I worked with some very connected people who knew it was a mistake at the time. One of them said this is going to be the biggest drug epidemic we have ever seen. He was a non-stop talker and some thought he was just blowing off steam, but he was prescient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Archie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 All this talk about covid and now I sit here waiting my test results. Whatever I got, it came on fast today. I was able to get a test to find out if its covid but I've got all the classic symptoms except loss of smell and taste and I feel terrible. Hopefully if it is covid the the two shots of Phizer and the Phizer booster will help me get past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: It is old. These numbers pertain to the original strain of Covid-19 and maybe the numbers for the variants are different. At any rate, it does support the conclusion that Covid is way worst than the flu for almost all age groups except under 15. And the new variant is going after kids. It looks like most of the conclusions they came to in the past change as we either learn more or a new variant pops up. Can't blame the experts for being wrong, they're working with the data they have now. That may change in 2 or 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Wismic Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Red Wings frustrated by postponements, but it buys time - mlive.com No reason to be frustrated. You want everybody to be healthy, right? {{symptoms have been minimal to non-existent in most cases}} Oh, they ARE healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: One of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made. I worked with some very connected people who knew it was a mistake at the time. One of them said this is going to be the biggest drug epidemic we have ever seen. He was a non-stop talker and some thought he was just blowing off steam, but he was prescient. People with substance abuse problems also knew right away it was something they could abuse. I'm getting ready to binge "Dopesick" and I think they'll say people at the drug companies knew. But they also knew the $$ they could make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: No twitter timeline is an indication of anything other than one's bubble. I think I'll take a break from Twitter for a month or so. It may get ugly. I'll just come here to vent...😅😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: No twitter timeline is an indication of anything other than one's bubble. def could be the case here. I'm seeing the CDC getting meme'd quite a bit on my timeline. I'm not sure the political orientation of it my timeline would obvs lean left lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Wismic Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/mask-mandates-covid-passports-fail-covid-explodes-one-state/ One of the most onerous mask & vax states. Their solution? More masking and vaxing :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Archie said: All this talk about covid and now I sit here waiting my test results. Whatever I got, it came on fast today. I was able to get a test to find out if its covid but I've got all the classic symptoms except loss of smell and taste and I feel terrible. Hopefully if it is covid the the two shots of Phizer and the Phizer booster will help me get past it. Hope it passes fast with no long term effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: People with substance abuse problems also knew right away it was something they could abuse. I'm getting ready to binge "Dopesick" and I think they'll say people at the drug companies knew. But they also knew the $$ they could make. I thought it was insane. I was tracking all the data for my job and seeing ridiculous increases in opiate use and I suspected it wouldn't end well. I had doctors offer me opiates on two occasions - once for a broken arm and once after minor knee surgery. I refused both times. They wanted to know why I refused. I said it was because I was tracking the data and didn't like the trends I was seeing. I didn't want to end up in my database! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Archie said: All this talk about covid and now I sit here waiting my test results. Whatever I got, it came on fast today. I was able to get a test to find out if its covid but I've got all the classic symptoms except loss of smell and taste and I feel terrible. Hopefully if it is covid the the two shots of Phizer and the Phizer booster will help me get past it. The Omicron variant doesn't cause loss of smell and taste, so it may be that. Whatever you have, I hope you get completely better quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Archie said: All this talk about covid and now I sit here waiting my test results. Whatever I got, it came on fast today. I was able to get a test to find out if its covid but I've got all the classic symptoms except loss of smell and taste and I feel terrible. Hopefully if it is covid the the two shots of Phizer and the Phizer booster will help me get past it. Get well! Glad you are vaccinated and boosted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edman85 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I do think that percent positive tests is a better indication of recent spread in an area right now that case counts. There are certainly a lot of people in bluer areas who took precautionary tests before visiting family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Archie said: All this talk about covid and now I sit here waiting my test results. Whatever I got, it came on fast today. I was able to get a test to find out if its covid but I've got all the classic symptoms except loss of smell and taste and I feel terrible. Hopefully if it is covid the the two shots of Phizer and the Phizer booster will help me get past it. Take care of yourself. Even with all the COVID blowing up I managed to a very nasty conventional cold this month, so you never know till your tests come back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I thought it was insane. I was tracking all the data for my job and seeing ridiculous increases in opiate use and I suspected it wouldn't end well. I had doctors offer me opiates on two occasions - once for a broken arm and once after minor knee surgery. I refused both times. They wanted to know why I refused. I said it was because I was tracking the data and didn't like the trends I was seeing. I didn't want to end up in my database! I'm certainly no expert, but a broken arm/knee surgery probably would the times you would want an opiate. My father in law had a bad knee, but instead of having surgery right away, the doctor was all to willing to keep giving out Vicodin. He was probably on it 2-3 years. He wasn't doing anything illegal, just asking for them. He was lucky enough to realize there was a problem and cut himself off. That was probably more physically taxing for him than the knee pain ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 They have put me on Vicodin a couple times for surgeries over the years, and I stopped taking them both times after a few days. Didn’t like the logy feeling, and worst of all made me totally constipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Thanks everyone....It was a very rough night but so far better today. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: They have put me on Vicodin a couple times for surgeries over the years, and I stopped taking them both times after a few days. Didn’t like the logy feeling, and worst of all made me totally constipated. I've had Vicodin after surgery too. It didn't do anything for the pain but just made me tired. Edited December 29, 2021 by Archie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 My cousin's got COVID for the second time now. Which of course begs the question, if natural immunity works, how did she get it twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: They have put me on Vicodin a couple times for surgeries over the years, and I stopped taking them both times after a few days. Didn’t like the logy feeling, and worst of all made me totally constipated. Some thing happened with me when I was prescribed oxycontin after my first knee surgery. I knew nothing about it. I tried it and I still felt as much pain, but I did get constipated, so, net loss. I bailed on it and didn't bother filling prescriptions for it after the next two knee surgeries. Lucky me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: I'm certainly no expert, but a broken arm/knee surgery probably would the times you would want an opiate. I didn't need it. The knee surgery barely hurt. The broken arm hurt, but I just took some ibuprofen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, pfife said: My cousin's got COVID for the second time now. Which of course begs the question, if natural immunity works, how did she get it twice? COVID is a deep state hoax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I took Vicodin once and hated how it made me feel. It didn’t dull the pain but made me not care about the pain. Or anything else. My wife took the bottle to work to dispose of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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