Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 JESUS FUCKING CHRIST . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 sweet shitpost account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, oblong said: "Hey, you want to have supper here tonight? I got some labatt's and we can go over the 'pro-cess' of how we're going to build the rink out back..." Good man! Resist the praw-cess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Unless she wants to be governed by the American version of Viktor Orban and Vlad Putin again and watch us slip into being run by an autocratic regime, she may not have a choice. Can't do much influencing from jail or a labor camp. If Michelle Obama is the only person standing between American Democracy and the American version of Orban/Putinism then we're already doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: Nope. Deep south drawl is the worst. 10 minutes to finish one sentence as they drag out each word over a 10-second lazy drawl... Talk about stupid sounding. (OK, I'm exaggerating just a bit... my apologies to our southerners on here... I know that slow of speech doesn't mean slow of mind...). But oh how I hate that southern drawl... southern drawls are the best. especially a nice southern lilt. nasally midwest accents are bad (sorry michigan). minnesota is just dumb, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST . . . The GOP in a nutshell right there. Not caring about your heath and making it harder to vote. Edited January 7, 2022 by Tigerbomb13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I have never understood the appeal of Oprah Winfrey. I understand what she now represents, but I don't get how she became so popular. oprah is one of the most culturally influential people in the last 50 years. helped make everything about your "feelings" and pussify america. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, buddha said: southern drawls are the best. especially a nice southern lilt. nasally midwest accents are bad (sorry michigan). minnesota is just dumb, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I don't want Joe Biden to run again, the party needs to new energy and fresh blood at the top. We need someone who can excite and relate to the new Millennial/Gen Z base of the party and finally get them turning out at rates we need to win. I don't want anyone over 75/76 running in 2024 but fear there may be one or more running. I also don't think that Kamala Harris on her own, given her dismal primary performance as a solo candidate, is strong enough to beat Trump or DeSantis. For 2024 both covid and inflation have to be in decline and the economy has to be on the right track. Democrats have to find a way to win back some amount of non-college educated white and hispanic voters. They have to win back Hispanic voters of all ethnic and national origin backgrounds (Columbian, Cuban, Dominican, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Venezuelan, etc.). They have to motive voters of color and black voters from all walks of life and get them turned out. They have to hold suburban voters and keep flipping college-educated suburban woman over to their side. They need Millennial and Gen Z voters to actually turn out in mass for once, especially Millennials who now represent the largest voting age block in the country. I think the Democratic short list for 2024 should begin and end with Michelle Obama because she checks off so many boxes for the party and has the broadest appeal. In the end though, I think the party and Biden rally around Harris out of sheer stupid loyalty and make her the nominee. I think the following candidates will be in play and/or at least could conceivably run for the office. Top Contenders Kamala Harris - I think she would lose to Trump or DeSantis if Biden isn't more popular by 2024, but I think she'll ultimately be the nominee. Michelle Obama - The best candidate to unite all factions of the party and grow the base. Mayor Pete - I think he would lose to Trump or DeSantis if Biden isn't more popular by 2024 Elizabeth Warren - I think she would lose if Biden was seen as moving "too far left" during his Presidency Cory Booker - If he has something inspiring to offer besides trying to re-run the Obama playbook for himself he could win. Sherrod Brown - I believe Sherrod would win if he ran against Trump or DeSantis, but losing the Ohio Senate seat would hurt. Gavin Newsom - I believe Gavin could win if Democratic numbers aren't severely underwater and inflation/covid have receded by then. Second Tier Candidates Amy Klobuchar - MN Senator Gretchen Whitmer - MI Governor Mitch Landrieu - LA Governor Roy Cooper - NC Governor you should eliminate any candidate from massachusetts or california. the gop would have a field day with candidates like that. too easy to steteotype. cory booker? the guy who "cried" when trump said he didnt want immigrants from shit countries? lol. no thanks to that overdramatic queen. kamala has shown nothing since being vp and her campaign for president was terrible. if she can somehow jump back on the "im a liberal but im also a prosecutor so i throw criminals in jail" platform maybe she has a chance. but that will be really hard to do after the last primary. newsome out, california liberal. warren out, taxachusetts liberal who everything thinks is a phony liar. sherrod brown: too liberal. mayor pete: could be the best candidate. kloubachar: could also be a great candidate but cant make it through the primaries because she's a white lady who put black people in jail and didnt execute white cops. and unlike pete, she cant fall back on the gay identity card. whitmer? meh, i dont know enough about her. woman? good. midwest? good. she got a little high profile in the covid wars. whats her stance on schools being open? landrieu and cooper have the profile for what kind of democrats win historically in the late 20th century win national elections (except obama the unicorn): southern governors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 If Sherrod can win in red Ohio how is he too liberal? Sherrod Brown would be a great candidate, except for the fact that he would cost us an Ohio Senate seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 How about Joe Biden who got the most votes in history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasTiger Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: How about Joe Biden who got the most votes in history? You're not a Republican. You don't get to decide who is the best candidate for the Dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: How about Joe Biden who got the most votes in history? he's going to be in his 80s. i think that's too old to be president. biden got elected because he wasnt a crazy democrat and he wasnt donald trump. i dont know if those are the dynamics of the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, buddha said: he's going to be in his 80s. i think that's too old to be president. biden got elected because he wasnt a crazy democrat and he wasnt donald trump. i dont know if those are the dynamics of the next election. If it isn't Joe Biden, then the Democrats will need someone who checks boxes. I don't know if Buttigieg's homosexuality trumps (no pun intended) not being female or a minority. Sherrod Brown is a heterosexual white male so he is out. Klobuchar is not well received by the black community. Whitmer is intriguing. She does seem to be well liked by the black community. She checks the female box but not the minority box which may or may not hurt. She also has the Michigan accent you like so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, buddha said: cory booker? the guy who "cried" when trump said he didnt want immigrants from shit countries? lol. no thanks to that overdramatic queen. I feel like he could still be viable, but I agree he would need to harden up a bit. 22 minutes ago, buddha said: mayor pete: could be the best candidate. I listened to some folks talk about some recent doc that came out on him and I was a little soured by the idea that it's really all about power for him. But then I take a step back and realize that's all we have to chose from because who in their right mind would be a politician. 22 minutes ago, buddha said: kloubachar: could also be a great candidate but cant make it through the primaries because she's a white lady who put black people in jail and didnt execute white cops. and unlike pete, she cant fall back on the gay identity card. Certainly my favorite, but completely agree. 22 minutes ago, buddha said: whitmer? meh, i dont know enough about her. woman? good. midwest? good. she got a little high profile in the covid wars. whats her stance on schools being open? No one knows what her stance on anything is because she's been hiding for about a year now. Publicly about the only thing you'll hear her say is that the vaccinations work and she urges everyone to get one. Polis made some waves recently somewhat declaring Colorado is done with Covid. Seems to be center right and fits one of the necessary boxes for a Dem (he's gay), but he's also rich and jewish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Motown Bombers said: If it isn't Joe Biden, then the Democrats will need someone who checks boxes. I don't know if Buttigieg's homosexuality trumps (no pun intended) not being female or a minority. Sherrod Brown is a heterosexual white male so he is out. Klobuchar is not well received by the black community. Whitmer is intriguing. She does seem to be well liked by the black community. She checks the female box but not the minority box which may or may not hurt. She also has the Michigan accent you like so much. theyre definitely grooming buttigieg by putting him in the cabinet and then giving him tons of money to play with and look good. forgot about whitmer's accent. she's out. they'll have to find someone jim clyburn likes, lol. dont count out tammy duckworth. asian, veteran, disabled, woman. check check check. if she were a lesbian she'd be perfect, lol. i think she's totally unimpressive but she does hit all the democrat talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Polis made some waves recently somewhat declaring Colorado is done with Covid. Seems to be center right and fits one of the necessary boxes for a Dem (he's gay), but he's also rich and jewish. being on the side of opening back up will endear you to the mlderates but will alienate the covid crazys and the LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE people. however, i think that could help someone like polis as a moderate dem. that said, being rich and jewish isnt going to help him with the left wing of the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: If it isn't Joe Biden, then the Democrats will need someone who checks boxes. I don't know if Buttigieg's homosexuality trumps (no pun intended) not being female or a minority. Sherrod Brown is a heterosexual white male so he is out. Klobuchar is not well received by the black community. Whitmer is intriguing. She does seem to be well liked by the black community. She checks the female box but not the minority box which may or may not hurt. She also has the Michigan accent you like so much. As crazy as it sounds, I think Sherrod Brown offers a lot of appeal with the growing Millennial (and progressive) base of the party given his economic populism and progressive values. Sherrod Brown and Millennials both want to stick it to corporate America and reform the way we do business in this country. Brown also has a broad appeal with white working class and non-college educated voters which could help Dems nationally. If it weren't for the fact that we'd lose a Senate seat in Ohio and that Michelle Obama would be an even better candidate, Sherrod would be my guys for 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, buddha said: theyre definitely grooming buttigieg by putting him in the cabinet and then giving him tons of money to play with and look good. forgot about whitmer's accent. she's out. they'll have to find someone jim clyburn likes, lol. dont count out tammy duckworth. asian, veteran, disabled, woman. check check check. if she were a lesbian she'd be perfect, lol. i think she's totally unimpressive but she does hit all the democrat talking points. I also forgot Michelle Lujan-Grisham. She checks off the female and Hispanic boxes. Duckworth wasn't born in the US and I don't believe her mother was a US citizen at the time of her birth. I think her eligibility could legitimately get questioned. No need to wade in those waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, buddha said: being on the side of opening back up will endear you to the mlderates but will alienate the covid crazys and the LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE people. however, i think that could help someone like polis as a moderate dem. that said, being rich and jewish isnt going to help him with the left wing of the party. Being Jewish isn't what will hurt Polis with the left considering they loved this guy . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: As crazy as it sounds, I think Sherrod Brown offers a lot of appeal with the growing Millennial (and progressive) base of the party given his economic populism and progressive values. Sherrod Brown and Millennials both want to stick it to corporate America and reform the way we do business in this country. Brown also has a broad appeal with white working class and non-college educated voters which could help Dems nationally. If it weren't for the fact that we'd lose a Senate seat in Ohio and that Michelle Obama would be an even better candidate, Sherrod would be my guys for 2024. you said the same thing about bernie and were all about assuring everyone that bernie would win. didnt happen. wont happen with brown either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Being Jewish isn't what will hurt Polis with the left considering they loved this guy . . . is polis as anti-israel as bernie? i dont polis from adam, but if he's moderate, i doubt he has the far left chops bernie does. just as an aside, its funny how bernie is far left in america. if this was europe he would be very comfortable in the center left/right parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, buddha said: you said the same thing about bernie and were all about assuring everyone that bernie would win. didnt happen. wont happen with brown either. Brown has a broader appeal than Bernie because he doesn't go around calling himself a democratic socialist. I think Brown would do well in northern and midwest states in a Dem Primary and struggle down south. I do believe he could be a serious contender though and would be a great general election candidate to go against Trump. Populism vs. populism. He finds ways to win in Ohio statewide when no other candidate for Senate or Governor do. So there is something to the guy, politically speaking, that keeps him ticking in a red state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Duckworth wasn't born in the US and I don't believe her mother was a US citizen at the time of her birth. I think her eligibility could legitimately get questioned. No need to wade in those waters. Legitimately, I guess so. But I am pretty sure she is eligible. Trying to think how, but i'd think there would be a means for her to get it to the courts early in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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