Archie Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: I agree, I don't think it would happen. The fact that Americans view fellow Americans who disagree with them as bigger adversaries than our actual foreign adversaries or a deadly virus is telling. Wow, you hit the nail on the head with people right here on this site. There are posters here that are not from the US that post negative things about the US, its policies and elected officials and other posters slap them on the back and agree with them. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Archie said: Wow, you hit the nail on the head with people right here on this site. There are posters here that are not from the US that post negative things about the US, its policies and elected officials and other posters slap them on the back and agree with them. I think you misunderstand my point completely. I'm not talking about criticizing American policy or it's elected officials. That's been going on since the start. I'm referring to the fact that, at least if social media is the barometer, there is very that binds Americans together anymore. Conservatives appear to hate liberals more than they hate actual hostile foreign actors (Russia, China, etc.), and liberals just hate on conservatives like that as well. And the elected officials you refer to (ie. the MTGs and Ted Cruz' of the world) are more than happy to egg it on and divide. Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Archie said: Wow, you hit the nail on the head with people right here on this site. There are posters here that are not from the US that post negative things about the US, its policies and elected officials and other posters slap them on the back and agree with them. If what they say is right, then sure I'll agree with them. Why not? 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: If what they say is right, then sure I'll agree with them. Why not? Also, there is nothing wrong with criticizing government officials or government policy. Hell, I see that every single day from Republicans toward the current administration. It doesn't make people "anti-American". What worries me though is that, unlike the past, people don't drop their sabers on things of collective interest in the way they did in the past. Today it's the virus, but what happens if we end up in a shooting war? That's what Rob was getting at in his post about rations, and just when I take a look at social media, it just seems to me like partisans (yes Archie, including conservatives) seem to hate people on the opposite side of the political debate more than they hate our actual adversaries or more than they hate a deadly virus. I don't think it's as bad off line, but on the internet? Everything is just toxic as hell. Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, ewsieg said: Hasn't this always been the standard? (and not directed at just you, but rather everyone) definitely has been for a lot of folks Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Archie said: Wow, you hit the nail on the head with people right here on this site. There are posters here that are not from the US that post negative things about the US, its policies and elected officials and other posters slap them on the back and agree with them. Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: If what they say is right, then sure I'll agree with them. Why not? uh he's from Canada so that's why not Quote
Archie Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: If what they say is right, then sure I'll agree with them. Why not? I guess I'm a team player. I'm against almost everything the Biden admin and the dems are doing. They're kind of like our villiage idiots but they're OUR village idiots. I wouldn't work with or agree with any foreigner to work against my country. So what you are saying is its OK to work with another country to go against the US as long as they support your opinion. Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Archie said: I guess I'm a team player. I'm against almost everything the Biden admin and the dems are doing. They're kind of like our villiage idiots but they're OUR village idiots. I wouldn't work with or agree with any foreigner to work against my country. So what you are saying is its OK to work with another country to go against the US as long as they support your opinion. I am talking about individuals having opinions, not countries working against each other One example: I think our gun laws are too lax. If some random guy from Canada says that our gun laws are too lax, I'll agree with him. If some random guy from the United States says we need more guns on the streets, I'll disagree with him. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, pfife said: uh he's from Canada so that's why not Yeah, I know who he's talking about. Judging people's opinions based strictly on what country they are from is a strange way to go through life. Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 LOL @ agreeing with a Canadian's political opinion on an internet message board = working with another country to go against the US Quote
Jim Cowan Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: Wow, you hit the nail on the head with people right here on this site. There are posters here that are not from the US that post negative things about the US, its policies and elected officials and other posters slap them on the back and agree with them. You're welcome! You're right next door for Pete's sake, pretty hard to ignore, and an extremely negative influence on the number of illegal guns in this country. If one has to be a citizen of a country in order to criticize it, let me know when you become Chinese. 4 2 Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 LOL @ being a team player when you think a canadian's political opinions are more against the US than an actual insurrection against the US was 1 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 47 minutes ago, Archie said: So what you are saying is its OK to work with another country to go against the US as long as they support your opinion. Really. I'm sure the board's resident Canadian and the most civil member of this board are "working against the US" by happening to have similar opinions. Jesus, give it a rest. Quote
pfife Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 this is super rich coming from the board's excuser of the insurrection it's almost seems like he's pro america selectively idk Quote
mtutiger Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, pfife said: This picture is exactly what I'm getting at. You don't see many people wearing these shirts obviously, but a short jaunt down one's Facebook account reveals a lot of opinions where one is really questioning the strength of civic society. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, mtutiger said: Sudafed AM/PM for me That's no good on a sandwich............... 1 2 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, pfife said: What a perfect response. I salute you, eh? Quote
Jim Cowan Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: That's no good on a sandwich............... There was a DJ on WKBW in Buffalo, stage name Stan Roberts, who referred to horseradish as "Jewish Dristan". He could get away with it, being Jewish. Quote
oblong Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Archie said: I guess I'm a team player. I'm against almost everything the Biden admin and the dems are doing. They're kind of like our villiage idiots but they're OUR village idiots. I wouldn't work with or agree with any foreigner to work against my country. So what you are saying is its OK to work with another country to go against the US as long as they support your opinion. What does “going against the US” mean because I have it on good authority that to 40% of the voting public and nearly half our federal legislature that it’s not the US they are in support of but rather a guy who was on a TV show in the mid aughts. If the interests of the former guy and the US collide they are aligning with the orange fella. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 I find Tea Green shampoo great for clearing the sinuses Quote
pfife Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 The PBS News hour just told me that today 146k people were hospitalized with covid which is a record. Is this in line with what Sotomayor said? Quote
ewsieg Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, pfife said: The PBS News hour just told me that today 146k people were hospitalized with covid which is a record. Is this in line with what Sotomayor said? She was referring to kids, the exact quote: "We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition, and many on ventilators" https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/sonia-sotomayor/fact-checking-sotomayor-kids-severe-covid-19/ 1 Quote
pfife Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, ewsieg said: She was referring to kids, the exact quote: "We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition, and many on ventilators" https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/sonia-sotomayor/fact-checking-sotomayor-kids-severe-covid-19/ thanks archie said once about kids and then once not about kids so I didn't know it seems like maybe she just messed up her stats Quote
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