chasfh Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 13 hours ago, oblong said: I really think these kinds of “attacks” reached their sell by date. People are not responsive to them anymore. All it does is reinforce them to be crazy and weird. That might be true, although I do wonder whether its effectiveness can benefit from message pulsing: focus on the original message until people are saturated with it, pause that message for a while and focus on some other message, then come back to the original message after a planned period of time at which point it will have impact again. We used that strategy in advertising media all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VegasTiger Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) Someone should start a thread (I would but I don't want to) of mug shots of child molesters. Then we can see all the drag queens I'm sure. Edited July 27 by VegasTiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Who knew that Milton Berle, Jonathan Winters, Flip Wilson, etc turned me into a liberal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ronz Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Along with Tom Hanks, Jamie Farr, Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams, Benny Hill, Sir Graves Ghastly, etc., etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Trouper Groomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 I am doubtful that drag queen outrage is what’s going to bring the fascists back into power this November. I feel as though anyone who would vote on that basis is already in the fold, and that anyone who didn’t care about it before would be motivated by the tweet above to vote Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 12 hours ago, oblong said: When this topic started coming up yesterday, on a lark, I put together a decision tree in PowerPoint—first one I've ever done anywhere—and now this gives me the opportunity to bust it out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: I am doubtful that drag queen outrage is what’s going to bring the fascists back into power this November. I feel as though anyone who would vote on that basis is already in the fold, and that anyone who didn’t care about it before would be motivated by the tweet above to vote Trump. No - the cultural/religious base still anchors on abortion. Just because they have found themselves on the losing end in several state referenda doesn't mean the energy around the issue on the anti side has gone away and for the anti-abortion voter facism and/or a blown up economy are trivial concerns-they don't move the needle. Those voters aren't going to be peeled from the GOP short of Armageddon. And that's sort of the interesting thing, because the allegiance there is actually to the legislative GOP and they only care about the Presidency as far as court appointments go. Trump is personally very soft on abortion, and everyone knows it, but it doesn't matter to the AntAb voter because they know he will make his appointment from the Federalist Soc short list regardless. Edited July 27 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: No - the cultural/religious base still anchors on abortion. Just because they have found themselves on the losing end in several state referenda doesn't mean the energy around the issue on the anti side has gone away and for the anti-abortion voter facism and/or a blown up economy are trivial concerns-they don't move the needle. Those voters aren't going to be peeled from the GOP short of Armageddon. And that's sort of the interesting thing, because the allegiance there is actually to the legislative GOP and they only care about the Presidency as far as court appointments go. Trump is personally very soft on abortion, and everyone knows it, but it doesn't matter to the AntAb voter because they know he will make his appointment from the Federalist Soc short list regardless. Yes sir, non maga repubs will never move to supporting abortion. However most will agree that rape, incest and other evil like that SHOULD be allowed to abort. That parts is common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Yes sir, non maga repubs will never move to supporting abortion. However most will agree that rape, incest and other evil like that SHOULD be allowed to abort. That parts is common sense. So it’s not about sanctity of life after all. Good to know. Edited July 27 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, chasfh said: So it’s not about sanctity of life after all. Good to know. You are so welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Yes and over validated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: You are so welcome! If opposition to abortion is not about the sanctity of life, then what is it about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Honestly the Olympic opening ceremonies are designed to disgust the MAGAs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, romad1 said: Honestly the Olympic opening ceremonies are designed to disgust the MAGAs. I'm guessing this has something to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 lol couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Ha ha. And $380 sounds cheap for a tow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Jillian Michaels is gay? Damn…. This changes everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 51 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: 👏 Yeah. Sometimes, when someone has a stupid-ass idea, a sane person needs to step up and say “No. Just…. no.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 43 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: 👏 meh - He may be right as a matter of political calculus for his community, but so what? The staging is silly, but if you are a Christian it's no skin off your nose. If they don't feel any respect for those images, who cares? It doesn't impact you at all in terms of your rights or freedoms in the US. If your community doesn't garner respect in the wider society, it's not because of silly people like this, those problems are a lot deeper and they are in house. When you start telling people who they owe deference not to make fun of, you're on your way to the Islamic Republic. If you are gay in America you still have plenty of reason feel much of the 'organized' Church could stand to brought down a peg or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Victimhood is so attractive to modern Christians. They can’t get enough of it. I take their fake outrage as just an extension of their bigotry towards the people in the portrayal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 36 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: meh - He may be right as a matter of political calculus for his community, but so what? The staging is silly, but if you are a Christian it's no skin off your nose. If they don't feel any respect for those images, who cares? It doesn't impact you at all in terms of your rights or freedoms in the US. If your community doesn't garner respect in the wider society, it's not because of silly people like this, those problems are a lot deeper and they are in house. When you start telling people who they owe deference not to make fun of, you're on your way to the Islamic Republic. If you are gay in America you still have plenty of reason feel much of the 'organized' Church could stand to brought down a peg or two. However if this was an attack on Muslims like showing Mohamed as a gay weirdo then there would be riots all over the world and you all know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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