romad1 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, chasfh said: Not necessarily either-or. Could have been both-and. For sure. The Russians tried. Hard to prove they did actually get in and change vote totals. The official story is they did not. Edited June 2, 2022 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Remember when Trump was going to have a cyber security task force with Putin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 10 hours ago, chasfh said: OK, I’m going to ask it: how many votes did Trump steal to win 2016? As many as he could get away with. We can be 100% certain of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I don't think any votes were "stolen". Any fraud that was there was probably what's typical for a given year. But now everyone's learned the weak points in the system , the crazy people have risen to the surface, so any close election going forward will be open to criticism by the crazy people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, oblong said: I don't think any votes were "stolen". Any fraud that was there was probably what's typical for a given year. But now everyone's learned the weak points in the system , the crazy people have risen to the surface, so any close election going forward will be open to criticism by the crazy people. I wouldn’t bet real, actual money that Tump helped mastermind some elaborate scheme to strategically steal votes in swing states to put him over the top despite losing the popular vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, chasfh said: I wouldn’t bet real, actual money that Tump helped mastermind some elaborate scheme to strategically steal votes in swing states to put him over the top despite losing the popular vote. I don't think he and his team would have known how to do that yet. He was still a loser and the party kept him at arm's length until that night when he won. They didn't have the infrastructure that comes with being a President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Four killed at a hospital in Oklahoma yesterday. I wonder if there was armed security there? Guess we should only have one entrance open at the hospitals now. Guess doctors, nurses, surgical technicians, pharmacists, pharmacy, technicians janitors, and cafeteria workers should all be carrying guns now at all times. It is a doctors duty to protect their patients health, so not only should you look out for the tumor on the CT scan, you should look around every corner for a potential gunman. Also, the gunman committed suicide, so looks like yet another case where a good guy with a gun didn't stop a bad guy with a gun. Also, if we did have doctors, nurses, and hospital staff carrying a gun, are we literally suggesting hospital staff have a shootout, at a place of wellness like a hospital, in front of patients? Also, if you've ever been inside a hospital, you will realize that most of them have hallways that twist and turn, with multiple corners to go around and multiple doors to go through. So if the person dresses to blend in, versus wearing apparel that stands out, whose going to be able to identify the active shooter if a majority of people are carrying and staff/visitors are shooting everywhere? I don't think this is the type of America people want to live in, with guns everywhere and shootouts occurring at schools, daycare centers, grocery stores, hospitals, doctors offices, dentist offices, chiropractic offices, places of worship, movie theaters, putt-putt golf centers, laser tag facilities, amusement parks, bars, restaurants, fast food restaurants, shopping malls, antique stores, strip clubs, museums, zoos, anywhere. But if you vote Republicans into a majority in the House and Senate and elect one as President in 2024, this is the type of America you will get. Edited June 2, 2022 by Mr.TaterSalad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, oblong said: I don't think he and his team would have known how to do that yet. He was still a loser and the party kept him at arm's length until that night when he won. They didn't have the infrastructure that comes with being a President. I can think of some potential confederates of his who would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: I can think of some potential confederates of his who would know. that's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 More maga fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 It had not occurred to me that the point here was to propagate and legitimize a counter-narrative about Trump and Russia, versus an honest attempt to convict Sussmann, but knowing these people and who their backers are, it makes total sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 A party of truly dangerous, deranged, colossal morons! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 We’ve always had such kooks around us, but one big difference now is that instead of living in their basements and going into the woods and distributing unhinged propaganda through hand-made pamphlets, now they can get a nice condo in the suburbs and clean themselves up and put on makeup and go into a nice studio with an impressive greenscreen and distribute unhinged propaganda through videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 When you agree with Joe Walsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 More maga fail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: When you agree with Joe Walsh He's also on the board of Fox News or whatever the group is called.... another one that was massively disappointing to me. He could have been President. I believe it strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, oblong said: He's also on the board of Fox News or whatever the group is called.... another one that was massively disappointing to me. He could have been President. I believe it strongly. Yeah, he could have. The comments about Rohrabacher and the other congressman being on the take from Russia were what killed him with the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Peter Navarro charged with contempt of Congress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Peter Navarro charged with contempt of Congress. "Off with his 'ead!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Maggie scooping her upcoming book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: so a bunch of psycho helicopter parents worried about their child's athletic performance will get to have the competition's parts checked out? We've reached peak Karen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I think we're closing in on Nixonian levels of indictments.... Meanwhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, oblong said: so a bunch of psycho helicopter parents worried about their child's athletic performance will get to have the competition's parts checked out? We've reached peak Karen. This is Ohio so I imagine Jim Jordan will be there for the genital inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Maggie scooping her upcoming book she might be worried that this is coming out when the hearings start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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