oblong Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 2:11 PM, gehringer_2 said: Good stuff. Though TBF, not many states were holding presidential primaries in '52 (If I count right on Wikipedia it was only 13). So getting the most primary votes in '52 might not have meant what it would mean today. Expand nope. And Dewey, even though he was a two time loser, still held enough clout with the bosses who matter. Dewey was instrumental in getting both Nixon and later HW Bush the attention of the party elite. How much history did he change without being POTUS? Quote
romad1 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 The weird Desantis staffer who was working for a Georgian politician is apparently lobbying for one of the apparently non-putin politicians…fwiw Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Brookings Institute Guide to January 6th Brookings Institute has a great guide detailing the events of January 6th and everything that led up to Trump's attempted coup. This is a great read in the run up to tomorrow's primetime hearings about Trump's attempted coup. Quote
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Some headline in the Detnews says that the Dems are staging a media witchhunt. Huh. That seems like a very lucrative position for a guy like Noah Finley to take. Quote
pfife Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 10:03 PM, romad1 said: The weird Desantis staffer who was working for a Georgian politician is apparently lobbying for one of the apparently non-putin politicians…fwiw Expand Those exist there? Quote
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 5:52 AM, pfife said: Those exist there? Expand Its convoluted. The guy was apparently appointed by the previous Poroshenko regime in Ukraine (yes, he is a Georgian politician) to be governor of Odessa. He quit because he was not a fan of the corruption the Poroshenko regime. Quote Saakashvili supported Ukraine's Euromaidan movement and the Revolution of Dignity.[15] On 30 May 2015, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko appointed Saakashvili as governor of Odessa Oblast.[16][17][18] He was also granted Ukrainian citizenship,[16] and due to restrictions on dual nationality under Georgian law, was stripped of his Georgian citizenship.[19] On 7 November 2016, Saakashvili resigned as governor while blaming President Poroshenko personally for enabling corruption in Odessa and in Ukraine overall.[9] Four days later, he announced his goal to create a new political party called Movement of New Forces.[20][21] Expand https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2015/09/saakashvili-as-odessa-governor/ Quote On 26 July 2017, Saakashvili (at the time staying in the US) was stripped of his Ukrainian citizenship by Petro Poroshenko, and became a stateless person.[22][23] On 29 May 2019, he returned to Ukraine after newly elected President Volodymyr Zelensky restored his citizenship.[24][25] On 1 October 2021, Saakashvili returned to Georgia after an eight-year absence, and called on his followers to march on the capital, Tbilisi.[26][27] He was arrested later on the same day in Tbilisi. [28] According to the investigation, Saakashvili entered the country secretly in the container of a sea cargo ship, in violation of the law.[29] President of Georgia Salome Zourabichvili stated that she will "never" pardon Saakashvili.[citation needed] Later Zourabichvili confirmed her first statement again,[citation needed] while Saakashvili announced hunger strike joined by other members of his party. Expand https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58767420 https://www.state.gov/treatment-of-former-president-of-georgia-mikheil-saakashvili/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/05/mikheil-saakashvili-georgia-hunger-strike-washington-golden-boy/ I hate posts that run too long. I'll close by saying its interesting that a Desantis person would be tied to this guy who appeared to be the darling of the Neo-cons. Quote
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 3:40 PM, CMRivdogs said: Expand I wonder if he can win? he's endorsed by Jews for the GOP so... Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 3:40 PM, CMRivdogs said: Expand I listened to the entire clip and he says he can't get comfortable with the "Rinoism of the Republican Party" but he can get comfortable with a who who murdered millions of people (Jews, Poles, Journalists, Gays, Communists, Political Dissenters, etc.) by shoving them into concentration camps and gas chambers. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 4:06 PM, romad1 said: HOLY CRAP! Expand I posted this in the Michigan Politics thread as well. According to the latest poll, this guy was leading in the GOP Primary field with 19% of the vote I believe. With the MAGA crowd this probably only increases his street cred. 1 Quote
smr-nj Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 4:07 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said: I listened to the entire clip and he says he can't get comfortable with the "Rinoism of the Republican Party" but he can get comfortable with a who who murdered millions of people (Jews, Poles, Journalists, Gays, Communists, Political Dissenters, etc.) by shoving them into concentration camps and gas chambers. Expand Sometimes I feel like I’ve traveled to an alternate universe. Can this possibly be reality ? How in God’s name can this be the new normal? Quote
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Mike Flynn is such an asshat...can you imagine thinking this is a good endorsement? Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 4:09 PM, smr-nj said: Sometimes I feel like I’ve traveled to an alternate universe. Can this possibly be reality ? How in God’s name can this be the new normal? Expand This Paladino guy, who is running to represent the Congressional District that Buffalo resides in shared Facebook posts that said both the Buffalo supermarket and Uvalde school shootings were false flag events. Quote
Jim Cowan Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 4:09 PM, smr-nj said: Sometimes I feel like I’ve traveled to an alternate universe. Can this possibly be reality ? How in God’s name can this be the new normal? Expand Read his Wikipedia page to see the remarks that he made about the Obamas in 2017. He could win...he has a lot of name recognition in Buffalo, most of it undeserved. A popular car dealer named Paladino flooded the airwaves with ads in the 1970's. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 4:42 PM, Jim Cowan said: Read his Wikipedia page to see the remarks that he made about the Obamas in 2017. He could win...he has a lot of name recognition in Buffalo, most of it undeserved. A popular car dealer named Paladino flooded the airwaves with ads in the 1970's. Expand Yikes. He would fit right in with today’s GOP: “Paladino said he’d like President Barack Obama to die from mad cow disease and called first lady Michelle Obama a man who should go live with gorillas.” Quote
mtutiger Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Paladino is massive POS... but he has the R next to his name, and that is all that matters in that district Quote
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Check out this thesis from JVL of the Bulwark in his daily email... Provocative Quote 1. Mike Pence: Hero I wrote a piece for the Atlantic and I’m not going to beg for compliments, but I feel like one line isn’t being properly appreciated by their readers: About one-fifth of Republican voters know that Joe Biden won a sacred landslide victory over Trump in 2020. Tim and Amanda are not persuaded by my argument that Pelosi and Schumer ought to name a building after Pence and then force Republicans to vote on resolutions praising him for his actions on January 6. But I am serious. How many House Republicans do you think would vote in favor of such a resolution? Whatever number you suggest, I’ll take the under. And it would be nice to have such a vote as a live issue that Republican Senate candidates to have to answer for. Ask Herschel Walker and the Thiel puppets if they think Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6. Make them explain why not. As Amanda likes to say: Prosecute the damn case. Mike Pence might be a hostile witness for the prosecution, but he’s a useful one. Democrats shouldn’t let him go to waste. They should hug Mike Pence—no matter how much he tries to wriggle out of their embrace—and use him to wedge the small number of gettable swing voters away from MAGA candidates. Now go ahead and flame me in the comments. I’m ready. Expand Quote
CMRivdogs Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 5:21 PM, romad1 said: Check out this thesis from JVL of the Bulwark in his daily email... Provocative Expand I'm not sure he deserves hero status. If he testifies before the committee I'd rank him akin to John Dean. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 6:37 PM, CMRivdogs said: I'm not sure he deserves hero status. If he testifies before the committee I'd rank him akin to John Dean. Expand I will agree with this comment written in today's JVL Bullwerk column Quote And it would be nice to have such a vote as a live issue that Republican Senate candidates to have to answer for. Ask Herschel Walker and the Thiel puppets if they think Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6. Make them explain why not. As Amanda likes to say: Prosecute the damn case. Mike Pence might be a hostile witness for the prosecution, but he’s a useful one. Democrats shouldn’t let him go to waste. They should hug Mike Pence—no matter how much he tries to wriggle out of their embrace—and use him to wedge the small number of gettable swing voters away from MAGA candidates. Expand 1 1 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 3:40 PM, CMRivdogs said: Expand And the excuse will be "not Hitler's policies, but the way he spoke to people"..........unless he's done that already. A friend of mine said years ago "If a black man is elected President, the other side is going to go absolutely batshit" Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Whose watching the January 6th Select Committee hearings tomorrow? Quote
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