Motown Bombers Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Barr's testimony is better than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Because he was the key to any power or influence they might have. Without Trump, they are all fringe nobodies. All of them to a one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Barr's testimony is better than I expected. He's still awful and terrible, but it was effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Richard Donoghue’s testimony includes a whole lot of conspiracy stories that I had never even heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, oblong said: It's just infuriating how many otherwise normal people believe that there's a problem with counting votes after election day. Like you are supposed to just stop at midnight or something. The sight of a bunch of west michigan and macomb county white people storming Cobo Hall demanding that they stop counting the votes of mostly black people. In 2020. Not 1876, not 1920.... 2020. They could have counted the write-in votes ahead of time. The Republicans didn't allow it because they wanted to make it look like the election was stolen. Edited June 13, 2022 by Tiger337 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: They could have counted the write-in votes ahead of times. The Republicans didn't allow it because they wanted to make it look like the erlection was stolen. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigerbomb13 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I know this is stating the obvious, but I still can’t believe how banana republic this stuff was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) the interesting argument here is does it matter if he kept saying he didn't believe people. After all it's what he would say even if he did understand the facts but his strategy was to willfully deny them. Can the Costanza defense hold water in a court of law? Edited June 13, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, gehringer_2 said: the interesting argument here is does it matter if he keep saying he doesn't believe people. After all it's what he would say even if he did understand the facts but his strategy was to willfully deny them. Can the Costanza defense hold water in a court of law? He'd have a better chance claiming insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Quote on MSNBC from one GOP operative. This is becoming a DeSantis 2024 commercial. Edited June 13, 2022 by CMRivdogs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: This is how Democracy Dies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 It seems the current Trumper reaction is something like "but gas prices, inflation" As if one committee could actually wave a magic wand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: They could have counted the write-in votes ahead of time. The Republicans didn't allow it because they wanted to make it look like the election was stolen. Yep, there is no reason why local clerk's offices can start counting mail-in/absentee votes before Election Day. If someone wants their ballot back they can simply find that ballot number, spoil the ballot, and allow the person to revote with a new ballot. Additionally, if, like Trump, you are worried about votes being counted over night and into the early morning hours, you can allow Clerks to count them prior to Election Day as they come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Benjamin Ginsburg, Republican Elections Attorney. Very direct, confident, and adamant that all Trump claims were baseless. Clearly he must be a globalist agent of the deep state. 😏 Edited June 13, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Now we’re getting to the money fraud part … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Trump raised almost $250 million, $150 million in the first week after the election, on claims of election fraud that they knew to be false. That sounds like fraud itself to me! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Yep, there is no reason why local clerk's offices can start counting mail-in/absentee votes before Election Day. If someone wants their ballot back they can simply find that ballot number, spoil the ballot, and allow the person to revote with a new ballot. Additionally, if, like Trump, you are worried about votes being counted over night and into the early morning hours, you can allow Clerks to count them prior to Election Day as they come in. That's basically what they did in Michigan for the Democratic primary. Especially since two candidates dropped out days before the primary. I'm not sure of the votes were counted in advanced at the registrars office though. Meanwhile in the general, Republican controlled legislatures like Pennsylvania passed laws forbidding early counting of mail in votes (the Pa Legislators championed voting by mail early in the pandemic. Until Trump said differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 "big massive dumps" is trending 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Trump raised almost $250 million, $150 million in the first week after the election, on claims of election fraud that they knew to be false. That sounds like fraud itself to me! He's been a fraud for 40 years. It is baffling how many can not see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 This is as big of a crime as the lies leading up to 1/6. This puts him into the TV Evangelist category. Just shows how much he despises the poor folks who voted for him. If he does run again I'd make it the cornerstone of my campaign. He lied and swindled you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, Tiger337 said: He's been a fraud for 40 years. It is baffling how many can not see it. TV ministers have been doing it for years. Before that itinerate "snake oil" salesmen. Not to mention politicians. Poor and desperate people fall for these scams, the ones we think know better and just riding his coat tails for the power and money. Exactly why some people don't want critical thinking taught in schools. Or even money management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Liz Cheney at the end is basically Ron Howard "On the next Arrested Development..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said: TV ministers have been doing it for years. Before that itinerate "snake oil" salesmen. Not to mention politicians. Poor and desperate people fall for these scams, the ones we think know better and just riding his coat tails for the power and money. Exactly why some people don't want critical thinking taught in schools. Or even money management. I'm old enough to get briefly sucked in by the Columbia Record Club and Book of the Month clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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