romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Dark Liz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Dark Liz? LC’s problem going forward is she has no money behind her. She’s not wealthy enough to be her own media, and the anti-Trump GOP donor base hasn’t shown any willingness to spent big enough to seriously blow up the party Edited August 17, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: LC’s problem going forward is she has no money behind her. She’s not wealthy enough to be her own media, and the anti-Trump GOP donor base hasn’t shown any willingness to spent big enough to seriously blow up the party "She has no money behind her" Ok, G2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, romad1 said: "She has no money behind her" Ok, G2 BTW....what was the discussion about the Lincoln Project and The Bulwark all about, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I expect the defender of Democracy Liz Cheney to endorse the Democrat in Wyoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I think that's a super fair expectation and I would expect that as well. I suspect she will but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, romad1 said: "She has no money behind her" Ok, G2 You can’t get a national party off the ground on Lincoln project level $$. The big GOP $$ are still going to the Trump GOP and Dem $$ are still going to Dems. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: You can’t get a national party off the ground on Lincoln project level $$. The big GOP $$ are still going to the Trump GOP and Dem $$ are still going to Dems. It is what it is. Just so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I wouldn't mind Cheney jumping into the Republican primary just to be an agitator. I'm sure there's some Halliburton money lying around somewhere that she can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I wouldn't mind Cheney jumping into the Republican primary just to be an agitator. I'm sure there's some Halliburton money lying around somewhere that she can use. It isn't like there isn't anti-Trump $ on the GOP sidelines. If she sticks a metaphorical dagger into Trump that would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, romad1 said: Just so It would have been nice to see, but we are 6 yrs out from Trump capturing the GOP nomination and the truth is that the Cheneys and Kasiches are no closer having a movement of their own than they were then so I’ve stopped holding my breath waiting. They are as Jonathan Schoop to me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 The fact that Liz Cheney and Jeff Session both got primaried shows this is about the Trump cult and not about politics. Those are two of the most conservative politicians you will find. I don't see any path for Cheney to a nomination. At best she would be a disrupter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, romad1 said: It isn't like there isn't anti-Trump $ on the GOP sidelines. If she sticks a metaphorical dagger into Trump that would be enough. In a three way race would she pull more votes from Trump or the Dem? Depends where she positioned herself but theses things can end up worse for the left side than the prior predictions. 68, 80, 2016 elections with 3rd parties went GOP, Clinton did win with Perot in the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: In a three way race would she pull more votes from Trump or the Dem? Depends where she positioned herself but theses things can end up worse for the left side than the prior predictions. 68, 80, 2016 elections with 3rd parties went GOP, Clinton did win with Perot in the race. I think the most important thing would be to have her in GOP debates against Trump. That would be the Liz Warren destroying Bloomberg effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: In a three way race would she pull more votes from Trump or the Dem? Depends where she positioned herself but theses things can end up worse for the left side than the prior predictions. 68, 80, 2016 elections with 3rd parties went GOP, Clinton did win with Perot in the race. Ralph Nader screwed up the 2000 race. Over 20 years later, I wonder if those Nader voters in Florida are happy with their choice? Did they accomplish whatever it was they were looking to accomplish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, romad1 said: I think the most important thing would be to have her in GOP debates against Trump. That would be the Liz Warren destroying Bloomberg effect. My guess is the RNC would ban her from the debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: My guess is the RNC would ban her from the debates. Which sets up a court case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: I expect the defender of Democracy Liz Cheney to endorse the Democrat in Wyoming. 3 hours ago, pfife said: I think that's a super fair expectation and I would expect that as well. I suspect she will but I could be wrong. Nope. Absolutely not. I don't know why you guys would think that. Never gonna happen. What Dark Liz could do... is run as an Independent. Blow up the whole election. Might be too late for her though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Nope. Absolutely not. I don't know why you guys would think that. Never gonna happen. What Dark Liz could do... is run as an Independent. Blow up the whole election. Might be too late for her though... 10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Nope. Absolutely not. I don't know why you guys would think that. Never gonna happen. What Dark Liz could do... is run as an Independent. Blow up the whole election. Might be too late for her though... I was being facetious. I think at best she'll endorse a third party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I was being facetious. I think at best she'll endorse a third party. What she said she'd do is prevent Trump from being president. That is the standard you can hold her to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, romad1 said: What she said she'd do is prevent Trump from being president. That is the standard you can hold her to. The only way to do that is to vote Democrat. As a foolish former president once said, "either you're with us, or with the terrorists." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The only way to do that is to vote Democrat. As a foolish former president once said, "either you're with us, or with the terrorists." yeah, there are no moral victories when it comes to elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 As we have learned from Virginia someone who pretends to disavow Trump still becomes as bad as Trump once he takes office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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