Cleanup in Aisle Lunatic (h/t romad1)

[Tigeraholic1]

12 hours ago, mtutiger said:

LOL 😆 

Prince Fielder is part of the resistance?

[CMRivdogs]

But Antifa, BLM......(oh yes all Democrats are criminals)

 

[CMRivdogs]

America first (unless they can get it in bulk and make a profit)

 

[chasfh]

22 hours ago, oblong said:

MAGA upset at the halftime show, predictably.

 

“Hoodlums”. Huh.

He might as well have called them n-bombs. 

[Motown Bombers]

I'm kind of surprised at all the support Eminem is getting from progressives considering his history with gays. Usually they want to cancel you if you use the wrong pronoun. 

[chasfh]

17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm kind of surprised at all the support Eminem is getting from progressives considering his history with gays. Usually they want to cancel you if you use the wrong pronoun. 

How do progressives support Eminem?

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

How do progressives support Eminem?

I'm not sure what you want from here but I'm not going down this rabbit hole. 

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm not sure what you want from here but I'm not going down this rabbit hole. 

What the hell are you even talking about??

[oblong]

Didn't Eminem apologize?  That means something.  

[pfife]

yeah I recall he did as well then did a jam with Elton John at the VMAs or somethign like that

[chasfh]

Is that what that was about? Something from twenty years ago? Weird.

Edited February 15, 2022 by chasfh

[CMRivdogs]

Maybe they can repeal a few Packers wins over the Lions while they're at it

[Motown Bombers]

24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Is that what that was about? Something from twenty years ago? Weird.

I mean, he's still putting out music using homophobic slurs and ironically the right is upset over his kneeling and the left is defending a homophobe. 

[Shades of Deivi Cruz]

Not going to debate Eminem. He may or may not be a homophobe. Regardless, I liked him thumbing his nose at the NFL and the idiots that demonized Kaep. I also like his music, which I also won't apologize for, although some of his lyrics are pretty cringeworthy. I also like some Kid Rock songs. Sue me.

[CMRivdogs]

Her reputation was ruined shortly after McCain put her on the ticket

Edited February 15, 2022 by CMRivdogs

[Tigeraholic1]

19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Her reputation was ruined shortly after McCain put her on the ticket

McCain wins if he takes anyone but her.

[oblong]

6 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

McCain wins if he takes anyone but her.

I don't think so. 

[Motown Bombers]

McCain lost by 10 million votes. As terrible as Palin is, I doubt she cost McCain 10 million votes. Obama had over twice as many electoral votes as well. 

[Tigeraholic1]

7 minutes ago, oblong said:

I don't think so. 

You might be right we will never know. Do you think she hurt or helped him?

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You might be right we will never know. Do you think she hurt or helped him?

I don't think the non-Obama voter needed Palin to increase McCain's appeal, and I doubt if she drew much of the progressive women's vote, so I'd have to guess that based on her own negatives, she was a net negative for him

[1984Echoes]

44 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Her reputation was ruined shortly after McCain put her on the ticket

You mean HIS reputation was ruined shortly after he put Sarah Palin on the ticket... right?

[oblong]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You might be right we will never know. Do you think she hurt or helped him?

I think she helped him because the conservatives really were not happy with his nomination.  She drew in a lot of the people who later would make Trump the nominee.  I remember listening to Hannity doing a bit on his show where he was pretending to like him but then took it all back.  But her being on the ticket gave people like him the reason to get behind McCain.  A lot of those people stayed home in 2012.

After the war in Iraq pretty much any D would have won that year.

[1984Echoes]

10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You might be right we will never know. Do you think she hurt or helped him?

Bottom line: Don't know.

She may have pulled in some conservatives for him. And lost him some Independents.

But Obama was going to wipe them off the floor regardless.

[1984Echoes]

1 minute ago, oblong said:

I think she helped him because the conservatives really were not happy with his nomination.  She drew in a lot of the people who later would make Trump the nominee.  I remember listening to Hannity doing a bit on his show where he was pretending to like him but then took it all back.  But her being on the ticket gave people like him the reason to get behind McCain.  A lot of those people stayed home in 2012.

After the war in Iraq pretty much any D would have won that year.

But how many Independents did she lose?

Quite a few people were annoyed with her... simple-mindedness.

Or did it even matter because of Obama's popularity?

[chasfh]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don't think the non-Obama voter needed Palin to increase McCain's appeal, and I doubt if she drew much of the progressive women's vote, so I'd have to guess that based on her own negatives, she was a net negative for him

Remember how she came out of nowhere two months before the election? Seems like they thought they could sneak her in as a progressive pick before voters could vet her. She revealed herself as both a lightweight and a right-wing kook pretty early on, so I can imagine that she kept some moderate Republicans home on Election Day that year.