romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 ditto Tim 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: If Utah elects Evan McMullin that will be a dagger to a large portion of the idiocy. It won't stop all the cancer of the last 6 years. Mike Lee who once wanted to protest Trump at the 2016 RNC became the biggest shill for the Trump. I don’t know, maybe not so “wow” … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, romad1 said: interesting thread I'm not sure there's anything big there. Milley wanted someone to tell him to do it and in his opinion Pence was good enough at that very moment. It was an emergency. Consequences and chain of command be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Did the other nets go to commercials? No, but they were broadcasting the thing that was the major news event live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, oblong said: I'm not sure there's anything big there. Milley wanted someone to tell him to do it and in his opinion Pence was good enough at that very moment. It was an emergency. Consequences and chain of command be damned. Trump would not do it. I have seen the document which i believe will come out in the next few days of hearings, that they purposefully wanted NG and other orgs not armed and not ready to respond to his mob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, oblong said: I'm not sure there's anything big there. Milley wanted someone to tell him to do it and in his opinion Pence was good enough at that very moment. It was an emergency. Consequences and chain of command be damned. That strikes me as very, very big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, romad1 said: Did the other nets go to commercials? No, but they were broadcasting the thing that was the major news event live. The other nets were not playing regularly-scheduled programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, romad1 said: Trump would not do it. I have seen the document which i believe will come out in the next few days of hearings, that they purposefully wanted NG and other orgs not armed and not ready to respond to his mob. Which may be exactly why that little shitbird congresscritter from Texas said last night that Democrats planned for this to happen by not, I guess, preparing properly based on pre-insurrection intelligence. Maybe shitbird was getting out in front of the document you saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 they know this hurt their narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Daddy was not happy last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 lol whadda bish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ronz Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Interesting that Trump admits that a Government employee that he hired was not doing her job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, The Ronz said: Interesting that Trump admits that a Government employee that he hired was not doing her job. lol and apparently for quite a while since she had long since checked out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 We kind of knew this. But, still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: they know this hurt their narrative. I was under the impression that the former President wouldn't be watching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Enjoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, romad1 said: interesting thread It's not that he was unavailable, it was that he was looking at what was happening at the Capital as an opportunity to remain president. He didn't want to stop what he thought would allow him to remain in power. Now let's just hope the 1/6 commission has built a strong enough case that Garland runs with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 They seemed off to a pretty good start at presenting that case yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 A lot of people, esspecialy among Democrats and progressives, think Merrick Garland has not done enough to hold Trump and his cronies accountable. They see a lack of inaction and a lack of prosecutorial power being wielded against the former President. Do these hearing finally prod Merrick Garland's DOJ into taking prosecutorial action against Trump himself? Do you think Garland's DOJ has been working on a case and taking action against Trump all along regardless of what comes out of these hearings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I believe the DOJ is doing things but Garland's not going to announce that at a press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, oblong said: I believe the DOJ is doing things but Garland's not going to announce that at a press conference. I'm in the believe it when I see it camp at this point. We've had a lot of false hope thinking that at least some of what Trump and his family did would be held to account and thus far he has not been. Misreporting tax information, tax evasion, misrepresenting and inflating/deflating assets, Jared's dealings with the Saudis, etc. I could be way off base (and hope I am) but I think similar to Nixon, they don't want to set a political precedent of prosecuting a President. That's a big mistake IMO if it is indeed true, because it sets a lawless precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I'm not sure whether they're doing somethign or not. I agree w/ Oblong that they wouldn't say much about it. I also think that it seems like it really could take a long time. If they're going to indict Trump over something that case needs to be really really tight and those things always take way longer than lay people think it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I'm in the believe it when I see it camp at this point. We've had a lot of false hope thinking that at least some of what Trump and his family did would be held to account and thus far he has not been. Misreporting tax information, tax evasion, misrepresenting and inflating/deflating assets, Jared's dealings with the Saudis, etc. I could be way off base (and hope I am) but I think similar to Nixon, they don't want to set a political precedent of prosecuting a President. That's a big mistake IMO if it is indeed true, because it sets a lawless precedent. I agree with you - I think we have experience with what happens when lawless president isn't held accountable. But if the lawless president is held accountable..... I'm not saying this b/c I think he shouldn't be held accountable but I think there could be a lot of violence if that happens and so you can't fuck around and find out with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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