Cleanup in Aisle Lunatic (h/t romad1)

[pfife]

1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

I don't understand how they don't see the bad optics with this.  

I think its because they operate wholly in a media environment that doesn't see it as bad optics at all.  

[romad1]

she totally wins the internet today

 

[1984Echoes]

27 minutes ago, romad1 said:

she totally wins the internet today

 

 

BOOM CHAKA-LAKA!!!

[romad1]

So, the Impeachment inquiry is exempted from the shutdown.  So, the entire plan to shut the government down to prevent the DOJ prosecutions of Trump have a precedence that they should continue as exempted....

 

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, romad1 said:

she totally wins the internet today

 

She has now put herself in the MAGA crosshairs and we're going to hear a lot more about her, which is great, because I definitely want to see more of this congressional representative.

[CMRivdogs]

Is this actually legal?

But then when to Performance MAGAs actually care about rule of law

 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Is this actually legal?

But then when to Performance MAGAs actually care about rule of law

 

In 2012 (Arizona vs US) Scotus ruled States have virtually no external immigration control authority apart from the Federal Government.  Abbot will have to get another case to the court to try for any different result. States have always been constitutionally barred from enforcing any kind of state controls on interstate travel.

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by gehringer_2

[pfife]

That's before they found the major questions doctrine in the constitution though 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

In 2012 (Arizona vs US) Scotus ruled States have virtually no external immigration control authority apart from the Federal Government.  Abbot will have to get another case to the court to try for any different result. States have always been constitutionally barred from enforcing any kind of state controls on interstate travel.

 

Yes, but it seems there is a chance that the brownshirt majority on the current court would give Abbott the ruling he needs to be able to build a border wall between Texas and New Mexico.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Is this actually legal?

But then when to Performance MAGAs actually care about rule of law

 

Not just to keep the undocs from coming in, but also to keep Texas girls seeking abortions from going out. 

 

[romad1]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

Not just to keep the undocs from coming in, but also to keep Texas girls seeking abortions from going out. 

 

Can we skip to the part where the US Army liberates the young girls and their doctors from camps run by the secessionist Texans?

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

Can we skip to the part where the US Army liberates the young girls and their doctors from camps run by the secessionist Texans?

Depends on who the Commander in Chief is.

[CMRivdogs]

Get the popcorn ready as the MAGAP begins to implode

Edit

I'd love to see MTG, Gym, and a couple others added to the group

Edited October 1, 2023 by CMRivdogs

[Tiger337]

I have seen no evidence of Gaetz being a smart guy.

[gehringer_2]

51 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Get the popcorn ready as the MAGAP begins to implode

Edit

I'd love to see MTG, Gym, and a couple others added to the group

Gaetz would have moved to vacate the Speakership immediately after the CR vote but they were ready for him and adjourned before he could be recognized to speak. My question would be whether even if they find a way to expel Gaetz, someone else from the wacko-right doesn't move to vacate anyway.

[Tiger337]

 

 

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

 

 

I would normally say I think it's hilarious they are building appeals to convert your retirement completely to gold through particular companies right within their content, but I can't because people of modest intelligence and means will be hurt by that.

[gehringer_2]

She's right.

 

[CMRivdogs]

50 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

She's right.

 

Besides if McCarthy is replaced MTG loses whatever leverage she has with him

[MIguy]

I'm not sure which one would be funnier, Democrats sitting out the vote and watching Gaetz crash and burn or voting to remove McCarthy and then sitting back watching Republicans fight among themselves trying to get enough votes to confirm a new Speaker.  

[1984Echoes]

3 hours ago, MIguy said:

I'm not sure which one would be funnier, Democrats sitting out the vote and watching Gaetz crash and burn or voting to remove McCarthy and then sitting back watching Republicans fight among themselves trying to get enough votes to confirm a new Speaker.  

The 2nd one.

Gaetz gets burned in the second scenario as well.

[gehringer_2]

I think the more time that goes by, the more Dems will remember all the reasons they don't care if McCarthy goes down. If Gaetz had gotten his vote immediately after the deal there might have been enough good feeling about the deal made for Dems to think about saving him. I think that's already fading.

Of course it still hinges as much on what the Dems can see as the outcome after a McCarthy 'vacation.'  (That is what you get if you are 'vacated', amirite?  )

Edited October 2, 2023 by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

In terms of governance, the only concession the Dems should demand for McCarthy to keep his job is an end to the Hastert rule (and a pledge neither party will ever bring it back). If something has majority support, it passes, regardless if it's with a minority of the majority party. That rule has done more to screw up US governance than any other single thing besides maybe Citizen's United and corporate campaign money.

Edited October 2, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Motor City Sonics]

Knew the knives would be out for McCarthy within a year.   Surprised it took this long.   They're gonna try to vote Trump in as Speaker.  

[CMRivdogs]

The wild card in this scenario is who the MAGA's would pick for Speaker. Getz has been pushing for DJT since they took over. DJT may be the only person the crazies might agree on (and you bet he'd jump at the chance.