oblong Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 That day was like the “grab em by the pussy” thing. So many were horrified and said the right things initially. Then they saw the politics of it and realized enough of their people didn’t care so they fell in line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 3:36 PM, Cartman said: REVEALED: Nancy Pelosi's millionaire husband Paul purchased millions in Alphabet, Disney and Salesforce stocks two days after she opposed ban on lawmakers buying shares We've been assured by our MSM and academic elites that Democrats would NEVER do such things as buy stocks based on insider trading... Not to go all Pfife on you, but I’ll take your silence as an admission that you lied. That might work on your favorite right wing propaganda outlet, but that stuff doesn’t fly here. And of course I’m sure you and all your Trumpy friends will use this as more proof of how mean this board is to conservatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: 20 million would be the 4th largest state in the US. We gained an entire state the size of the state of New York in illegal immigrants. The number of illegals crossing into the US was a little over 2 million in 2021 from what I've read. Someone added an extra "0". Is anyone here concerned about this? This does nothing but bring harm and trouble to our country. I get it that some of them are just hard working people looking for help but there are legal ways to get in the US. Besides those people there are plenty of other people coming across the border to do bad things like drugs, crime and terrorism. They are not all Mexican or Central American's either. Then there is the health crisis they bring. Many American's are mandated to get the Covid vaccination but these people are required nothing. They are shipped around the country live off from us basically. Its a drain and a danger to all of us and the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Archie said: They are shipped around the country live off from us basically. Most of those people "being shipped around the country" are actually working at low paying jobs for unethical employers. They are in the main the exploited, not the exploiters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Trump's wall is not working Unfortunately the wall was never finished. Had it been it would have helped. Last I knew Abbott was trying to get it completed in Texas. A border wall has been supported by both sides of the aisle until Trump pushed it, then all the dems were against it. There is plenty of video of Biden and his party members supporting a border wall. This is a great example of how low the politics of this country has gone. When the two sides can't come together to do the right thing to protect the country something is wrong. Now the dems want to show how wrong Trump was they've basically opened the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, gehringer_2 said: Most of those people "being shipped around the country" are actually working at low paying jobs for unethical employers. They are in the main the exploited, not the exploiters. A lot have been put on planes and buses and shipped around the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Archie said: Unfortunately the wall was never finished. Had it been it would have helped. Last I knew Abbott was trying to get it completed in Texas. A border wall has been supported by both sides of the aisle until Trump pushed it, then all the dems were against it. There is plenty of video of Biden and his party members supporting a border wall. This is a great example of how low the politics of this country has gone. When the two sides can't come together to do the right thing to protect the country something is wrong. Now the dems want to show how wrong Trump was they've basically opened the border. You haven't heard there is a worker shortage? It's the US capitalist class that does not want the border closed tighter because it would force up US wages. And they pay the most of the campaign bills for both parties. At least the progressives who want open immigration are honest about it and want the emigres to have a path to citizenship so they are harder to exploit. I think they are quite wrong about open borders being a viable policy, but at least they don't lie about it. Edited January 2, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The wall was a dog and pony show. People find ways around barriers as long as there is motivation. Until the US gets serious about punishing the employers that draw illegals they will continue to come. Don't hold your breath on that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Archie said: Unfortunately the wall was never finished. Had it been it would have helped. Last I knew Abbott was trying to get it completed in Texas. A border wall has been supported by both sides of the aisle until Trump pushed it, then all the dems were against it. There is plenty of video of Biden and his party members supporting a border wall. This is a great example of how low the politics of this country has gone. When the two sides can't come together to do the right thing to protect the country something is wrong. Now the dems want to show how wrong Trump was they've basically opened the border. Oh that's right, it was never built. The guy who always keeps his promises couldn't make his signature promise happen. I never supported it. I thought it was one of the dumbest ideas ever and that it would not have prevented people from coming here. It would have been a big waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The parts of the wall Trump did build, in rough terrain areas where illegals don't cross anyways, fell down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: You haven't heard there is a worker shortage? It's the US capitalist class that does not want the border closed tighter because it would force up US wages. And they pay the most of the campaign bills for both parties. At least the progressives who want open immigration are honest about it and want the emigres to have a path to citizenship so they are harder to exploit. I think they are quite wrong about open borders being a viable policy, but at least they don't lie about it. Right, the ruling class wanted the tax cuts and judges (to prevent regulation). They want imigration (for cheap labor) and they don't give a crap about your cultural issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 So you don't mind crime, drugs and terrorists walking accross the border. I guess its one of those things people will loyallly follow their political party on until their family or themselves is effected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 We already have the proud boys and other Jan 6 terrorists here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, Archie said: The number of illegals crossing into the US was a little over 2 million in 2021 from what I've read. Someone added an extra "0". Is anyone here concerned about this? This does nothing but bring harm and trouble to our country. I get it that some of them are just hard working people looking for help but there are legal ways to get in the US. Besides those people there are plenty of other people coming across the border to do bad things like drugs, crime and terrorism. They are not all Mexican or Central American's either. Then there is the health crisis they bring. Many American's are mandated to get the Covid vaccination but these people are required nothing. They are shipped around the country live off from us basically. Its a drain and a danger to all of us and the country. I love immigrants and don't think its "nothing but harm and trouble to our country" And yes incessant GOP lies about immigrants is a huge concern. It's telling you can't call out obvious lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) https://twitter.com/NGrossman81/status/1477688016009375750?s=20 Edited January 2, 2022 by ben9753 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Wait, what terrorist walked in from Mexico? I think it's ironic the most dangerous border city in the US is on the Canadian border and not the Mexican border. Edited January 2, 2022 by Motown Bombers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 If this is indicative of a new standard, the right might actually be getting funnier and I'll be getting nervous because honestly this is hilarious 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Foxy prolly gonna use that as an avatar.... or maybe I should Edited January 2, 2022 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Wait, what terrorist walked in from Mexico? I think it's ironic the most dangerous border city in the US is on the Canadian border and not the Mexican border. These were the first two from a quick search. Plenty more available. https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/12/biden-admin-deletes-own-reports-of-terrorist-arrested-in-us-after-crossing-southern-border/ https://www.foxnews.com/us/saudi-arabian-terrorist-nabbed-mexico-border-yemeni-border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, oblong said: We already have the proud boys and other Jan 6 terrorists here. Don't forget BLM and Antifi. They've caused more violence and damage than right wing groups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 56 minutes ago, Archie said: Unfortunately the wall was never finished. Had it been it would have helped. Last I knew Abbott was trying to get it completed in Texas. What’s the hold up? Electrical grid out of commission again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Archie said: These were the first two from a quick search. Plenty more available. https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/12/biden-admin-deletes-own-reports-of-terrorist-arrested-in-us-after-crossing-southern-border/ https://www.foxnews.com/us/saudi-arabian-terrorist-nabbed-mexico-border-yemeni-border These two links are the same person and he was arrested by border patrol so apparently the border security worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: These two links are the same person and he was arrested by border patrol so apparently the border security worked. https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-terrorists-crossing-border-level-174700735.html How many made it in the country we don't know about? Why doesn't anyone care and just make excuses. Can we be too safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Nice basing your argument on what you Don't know and also admitting it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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