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On 1/7/2022 at 2:57 PM, mtutiger said:

Really, the moment where Cruz showed his true colors in terms of weakness was after he made his statement in Cleveland back in 2016. It was a high stakes moment for his career and he actually took a stand for something for a change. But, like the invertebrate that he is, he reneged the moment there was any adversity to his career.

Ted Cruz, the Patton Oswalt of politics.

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4 hours ago, romad1 said:

Its a pretty good hour of standup.  He's a riot. 

He is a good standup.  The fact that this new boba fett series basically starts out from an unscripted riff he did on parks and rec is fantastic.  I was referring to his backtracking when someone challenges him though.  Might just be the worst possible 'friend' you could have.

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1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

He is a good standup.  The fact that this new boba fett series basically starts out from an unscripted riff he did on parks and rec is fantastic.  I was referring to his backtracking when someone challenges him though.  Might just be the worst possible 'friend' you could have.

That was an amazing riff on the multi-verse in his citizen's filibuster.

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23 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Johnson came to the realization that the political atmosphere is so overwhelmingly favorable for right wing lunatics, now is the time to run more than any time. I still can’t believe him and Tammy Baldwin get elected from the same state. 

It's really wild to think of the fact that there may indeed be Baldwin/Johnson voters, although probably not many. I suspect more or less Johnson and Republicans win in Wisconsin when Democrats or Democratic-leaning voters don't bother to show up.

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Speaking of Tammy Baldwin, she has a lot of things going for her to be a contending candidate for 2024. She's boring and inoffensive, like Biden is/was, and moderate/center-left voters like those safe, boring characteristics in a politician. Yet, on public policy, she leans towards progressives and the left with her support of Medicare For All, labor rights, Citizen's United/money in politics, Green New Deal, etc. She is solidly progressive, without appearing as a leftist to the average voters. She also doesn't have the reputation of calling herself a democratic-socialist either. She is also a box checker from a demographic standpoint being both a woman and a lesbian woman apart of the LGBTQIA community. Baldwin also does something that few progressives running in statewide elections usually do, she wins and does so by large margins. She also does better than most Democrats in rural communities and among non-college educated voters.

If Biden doesn't run, Baldwin would be wise to throw her hat in the ring for 2024.

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The Independent: Capitol rioter found with homemade napalm had folder with ‘good guy, bad guy’ list and numbers for Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity

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From the article . . .

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Mr Coffman is one of 13 individuals who have been federally charged for actions taken during the attack on the Capitol. Police discovered 11 Molotov cocktails and guns in his vehicle.

Peaceful protestors, tourists really, just there to see the Capitol Building.

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8 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The Independent: Capitol rioter found with homemade napalm had folder with ‘good guy, bad guy’ list and numbers for Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity

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From the article . . .

Peaceful protestors, tourists really, just there to see the Capitol Building.

…nothing to see here. Hm.


Actually, the narrative seems to have changed from “nothing bad happened, no violence that wasn’t media created” to “well, …our country is being stolen, so , OF COURSE we had to stop it.  And we’ll do it again. We’re patriots”

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27 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

1) I somewhat feel like they are trying to imply this guy was in direct contact with Cruz and Hannity.  I just did a google search for 'Ted Cruz office number' and it came up with the number above.

2) I like Tom Bodett

15 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Actually, the narrative seems to have changed from “nothing bad happened, no violence that wasn’t media created” to “well, …our country is being stolen, so , OF COURSE we had to stop it.  And we’ll do it again. We’re patriots”

I think it was Charlie Kirk, but if not, someone like him at some forum and a guest asks when it is time to grab the guns and fight back.  Kirk tries to backtrack on the guy saying we don't need to go there and that would mean we're just like them, but i'm sure once he got done, he went on trying to make these folks believe the election was stolen from them.  How do they think this will end?

 

edit: Found it, it was Kirk

 

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2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Speaking of Tammy Baldwin, she has a lot of things going for her to be a contending candidate for 2024. She's boring and inoffensive, like Biden is/was, and moderate/center-left voters like those safe, boring characteristics in a politician. Yet, on public policy, she leans towards progressives and the left with her support of Medicare For All, labor rights, Citizen's United/money in politics, Green New Deal, etc. She is solidly progressive, without appearing as a leftist to the average voters. She also doesn't have the reputation of calling herself a democratic-socialist either. She is also a box checker from a demographic standpoint being both a woman and a lesbian woman apart of the LGBTQIA community. Baldwin also does something that few progressives running in statewide elections usually do, she wins and does so by large margins. She also does better than most Democrats in rural communities and among non-college educated voters.

If Biden doesn't run, Baldwin would be wise to throw her hat in the ring for 2024.

I would be much, much, much more supportive of her run than Michelle Obama or Oprah's run.

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2 hours ago, smr-nj said:

…nothing to see here. Hm.


Actually, the narrative seems to have changed from “nothing bad happened, no violence that wasn’t media created” to “well, …our country is being stolen, so , OF COURSE we had to stop it.  And we’ll do it again. We’re patriots”

Don't forget the ANTIFA narrative. January 6th was just ANTIFA people infiltrating peaceful patriots going for a leisurely stroll through the Capitol. Remember, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and others in right wing media were purposefully and falsely speculating ANTIFA was involved.

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The other thing I'd like someone on the right and Fox News to answer for is the fact that CNN FIRED Chris Cuomo for running political interference on behalf of his corrupt brother and the sinking ship that was Andrew Cuomo. Why hasn't Hannity been admonished or fired by Fox News for his text messages and role in January 6th? What gives, wouldn't want to be hypocritical would we?

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7 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The other thing I'd like someone on the right and Fox News to answer for is the fact that CNN FIRED Chris Cuomo for running political interference on behalf of his corrupt brother and the sinking ship that was Andrew Cuomo. Why hasn't Hannity been admonished or fired by Fox News for his text messages and role in January 6th? What gives, wouldn't want to be hypocritical would we?

Cuomo was fired because of serious sexual misconduct allegations against him when at another network. After the person came forward CNN did their own investigation and found it had some merit and fired him.  That took a lot for CNN to do because they lost another 20 viewers the can't afford to lose. Hannity has no such allegations against him but I'm sure a liberal will make one up if you want. They're real good at making up things to make people look bad.

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5 minutes ago, Archie said:

Cuomo was fired because of serious sexual misconduct allegations against him when at another network. After the person came forward CNN did their own investigation and found it had some merit and fired him.  That took a lot for CNN to do because they lost another 20 viewers the can't afford to lose. Hannity has no such allegations against him but I'm sure a liberal will make one up if you want. They're real good at making up things to make people look bad.

Reuters: CNN fires anchor Chris Cuomo over role in brother ex-governor's sex scandal

CNN fired Cuomo because he helped his brother Andrew, although the new allegations were the icing on the cake. "Chris Cuomo was suspended earlier this week pending further evaluation of new information that came to light about his involvement with his brother's defense." "We retained a respected law firm to conduct the review, and have terminated him, effective immediately,"

In-regards to Hannity, his network, on their Fox & Friends show, went on the air and read Chris Cuomo text messages about Chris helping to run interference and advise his brother Andrew. Hannity (and Carlson) then went on Fox approx. a month later and complained about his text messages were read and made public. And do you know what Hannity was saying and attempting to do in those text to Mark Meadows, run interference and advise Trump, similar to Cumo advising his brother.

Just some of Hannity's texts to Mark Meadows . . .

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"We can't lose the entire WH counsels office. I do NOT see January 6 happening the way he is being told. After the 6 th. [sic] He should announce will lead the nationwide effort to reform voting integrity,"

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"Pence pressure. WH counsel will leave," Hannity wrote on Janaury 5.

 

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33 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The other thing I'd like someone on the right and Fox News to answer for is the fact that CNN FIRED Chris Cuomo for running political interference on behalf of his corrupt brother and the sinking ship that was Andrew Cuomo. Why hasn't Hannity been admonished or fired by Fox News for his text messages and role in January 6th? What gives, wouldn't want to be hypocritical would we?

I don't like the idea that a mainstream news channel primetime host has the President's chief of staffs direct contact information, but I will give you an answer about why it's not the same thing.

1) Cuomo was in hot water over multiple other issues which already had him one foot out the door.

2) CNN, while failing a bit at times IMO, has consistently claimed they were "The most trusted name in news".  FoxNews has gone the way of MSNBC, just in the opposite direction.  There is no claim by FoxNews to try and show both sides.  While I don't like it, no one should have been surprised that major players on FoxNews had direct ties with major players in the GOP.  

3) a. The content itself.  Read what Hannity said.  He was offering advice, sound advice at that.  He was pointing out how big of a mistake it was to claim a stolen election.  Sounds like he was one of the few that recognized there could be potential harm to staging that ridiculous attempt to block Biden from getting the EC votes on 1/6.  Now, how you keep a guy employed that then goes on TV and backs Trump after the fact, well, that's just further proof of what we already know, FoxNews doesn't have much credibility and their primetime shows are even worse.

   b. Cuomo wasn't just offering advice, he was using his sources that he's built up from working at CNN and as a journalist to help feed information to his brothers administration to help them 'get in front' of the situation.  And by 'get in front', that means identifying accusers so they could get dirt on them and try and discredit them right away.  If maybe instead of doing that, he just texted his brother, or his brothers staff and said 'hey, how about you stop sexually harrasing women and see how that works for you?' it would be on the same level as Hannity.

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