buddha Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I-L-L! I-N-i! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Well according to PFF the Lions thus far have gotten the 1st, 9th, 43rd and 73rd ranked prospects out of their 4 picks. Not too shabby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Not Lions related but was reading Kiper's write up about Day 2 and his winner's and losers and it just baffles me how people in his position can be so dense. He named the Seahawks in the loser category cause they passed on Willis twice and paraphrased it with something like "I don't get it, do they think that Drew Lock or Geno Smith are going to play even close to above average football this season?" First off, who cares how either of those two perform this year, it's not like they are trying to win. Secondly if you do care how the qb performs this year you wouldn't take Willis since he certainly isn't ready to take over anyway and finally you don't take a player that you don't like or think is flawed just cause they may be better than what you have right now. I swear you'd think for somebody's who's entire job is draft related that they would realize that they have these things every year so you don't have to address a need right now and that you are indeed allowed to play a season with subpar QBs when you're planning on rebuilding anyway. Sorry for the rant, not trying to specifically pick on Kiper its just takes like this are a pet peeve of mind and I see it all the time from folks. Yeah if you are serious about contending and pass on a clear need I can maybe see getting frustrated but when you are planning to compete say 2 or 3 years down the road the goal is to just gobble up as much talent as possible and worry about need later. Edited April 30, 2022 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I think this QB thing is just a cycle. If some of the early round qb's the last few years had performed better, then you wouldn't see guys dropping this far. If this year's qb class impresses, than you will see more qb's drafted early again next year. Teams can convince themselves either way on quarterbacks based on what they want to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 7 hours ago, TP_Fan said: Lions seem to do well with PFF grades. Maybe that is something they use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I was just reading up on Paschal. Great story, diagnosed with Cancer in 2018 when doctors found malignant melanoma on his foot. Three surgeries. He came back to play 3 games that season. Locker room leader. Good character guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Hart said: Lions seem to do well with PFF grades. Maybe that is something they use? maybe because they seem to be going for guys with solid game performance records more than combine warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Not Lions related but was reading Kiper's write up about Day 2 and his winner's and losers and it just baffles me how people in his position can be so dense. He named the Seahawks in the loser category cause they passed on Willis twice and paraphrased it with something like "I don't get it, do they think that Drew Lock or Geno Smith are going to play even close to above average football this season?" First off, who cares how either of those two perform this year, it's not like they are trying to win. Secondly if you do care how the qb performs this year you wouldn't take Willis since he certainly isn't ready to take over anyway and finally you don't take a player that you don't like or think is flawed just cause they may be better than what you have right now. I swear you'd think for somebody's who's entire job is draft related that they would realize that they have these things every year so you don't have to address a need right now and that you are indeed allowed to play a season with subpar QBs when you're planning on rebuilding anyway. Sorry for the rant, not trying to specifically pick on Kiper its just takes like this are a pet peeve of mind and I see it all the time from folks. Yeah if you are serious about contending and pass on a clear need I can maybe see getting frustrated but when you are planning to compete say 2 or 3 years down the road the goal is to just gobble up as much talent as possible and worry about need later. The problem with guys like that is they are so on immediate help and what's needed today and the big picutre isn't seen at all. We saw it last year with us when we didn't take a WR. The same thing happened. All they care about is filling preceived needs today while a team might be thinking two or three seasons down the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: maybe because they seem to be going for guys with solid game performance records more than combine warriors. Holmes seems to be a big fan of the in game GPS. I believe he said the Rams used it and led them to draft guys like Cooper Kupp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Holmes seems to be a big fan of the in game GPS. I believe he said the Rams used it and led them to draft guys like Cooper Kupp. Overall I think for football, game performance vs athletic projection is a safe way to go. Sure you may miss a great athlete who just never had the chance on the field here and there, but you will probably also end up with a lot fewer busts, and (IMO) in football quantity is everything. You just can't afford to miss on a lot of draft picks. Sort of the opposite of baseball where your misses hardly matter at all - you only need to hit big on one or two players out of the dozens signed each year. Edited April 30, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagnam Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Jets reportedly made an insultingly low offer for Deebo Samuel Says the Lions offer was “light”. 32 and 34? ”Matt Barrows of TheAthletic.com reported on Friday that the Jets offered the 10th overall pick and a fifth-rounder for Samuel, with a catch. The Jets also wanted a second-round pick from the 49ers.” Edited April 30, 2022 by sagnam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 9 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Not Lions related but was reading Kiper's write up about Day 2 and his winner's and losers and it just baffles me how people in his position can be so dense. He named the Seahawks in the loser category cause they passed on Willis twice and paraphrased it with something like "I don't get it, do they think that Drew Lock or Geno Smith are going to play even close to above average football this season?" First off, who cares how either of those two perform this year, it's not like they are trying to win. Secondly if you do care how the qb performs this year you wouldn't take Willis since he certainly isn't ready to take over anyway and finally you don't take a player that you don't like or think is flawed just cause they may be better than what you have right now. I swear you'd think for somebody's who's entire job is draft related that they would realize that they have these things every year so you don't have to address a need right now and that you are indeed allowed to play a season with subpar QBs when you're planning on rebuilding anyway. Sorry for the rant, not trying to specifically pick on Kiper its just takes like this are a pet peeve of mind and I see it all the time from folks. Yeah if you are serious about contending and pass on a clear need I can maybe see getting frustrated but when you are planning to compete say 2 or 3 years down the road the goal is to just gobble up as much talent as possible and worry about need later. Seattle seems like an obvious landing spot for Baker Mayfield, but what are the Browns asking for? Anything higher than a 4th round pick would be ridiculous. Cleveland has no leverage at all here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sagnam Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Hutch has the Zach Wilson buzz this year with the focus on his mom and sister(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Now the moment when Jameson Williams finds out he is a Lion. Edited April 30, 2022 by Motown Bombers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 surprised to see perrion winfrey still on the board. teams must see him as a workout warrior because he dominated the senior bowl. engabare is there too. both of those guys had some late first early second talk for a while. still a lot of decent tight ends and corners left (josh jobe?) not a ton left at linebacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagnam Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I was thinking that too, but some of these guys seem to hide all emotion. Hopefully it’s that! Malik Willis refused to hug back whoever was hugging him when he was picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) I think it's clear given the two DEs and WR the Lions picked, Hutch, Paschal and Williams, that unlike Quinntrica, this regime really values athleticism. They want guys they have the athletic ability to be disrupters and playmakers. I don't know what Paschal will bring ultimately, but he's certainly got the athletic upside to be good. Edited April 30, 2022 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I don't understand what Bill Belichick is doing. He picks a Guard with a 4th-5th round grade in the first in Cole Strange, a WR with a 3rd-4th round grade in Tyquon Thornton in the 2nd, and now he needlessly wastes a 4th round pick a QB in Bailey Zappe. I think New England has a really bad draft on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 New England hasn't had a good draft in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Sam Howell goes to the Commodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 A year ago on the say after the draft, the mocks for 2022 came out and Sam Howell was #1 overall. Washington just took him in the 5th round. Now that's a fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: New England hasn't had a good draft in a while. New England's success was a combination of getting away with cheating and Tom Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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