Tiger337 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 hours ago, chasfh said: I honestly feel sorry for any children who might be living in the households of this guy and of the people cheering for him. I don't know. Based on the language he uses, he sounds like he could be reasonably intelligent and civil. I think it's just a show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Damn, just as Trump.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Completely unhinged, yet no one in his party's leadership will call him out on this or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Interesting. Most autocratic tyrants make a show of pretending to promise to uphold the rule of law while campaigning for office under the democracy they seek to destroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, chasfh said: Interesting. Most autocratic tyrants make a show of pretending to promise to uphold the rule of law while campaigning for office under the democracy they seek to destroy. He doesn't seek to destroy democracy. I don't think he gives a shit among democracy one way or the other. He seeks attention and revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I don’t think he even wants it to happen. Just wants to raise money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 attention, revenge, and money. All good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 I definitely think Trump wants to be president, because he is intoxicated by the almost limitless power it affords him. He may not have cared much about being president before 2017, maybe because he thought it would be too much actual work or something, but once he got in there and saw he didn't have to hardly do jack shit, and experienced all the power that came with it, he got hooked and never wanted to let it go. I also think we give him too little credit when it comes to being stupid, ignorant, and clueless. He doesn't give a shit about working within a democracy, I agree, but I think he does give enough of a shit about the concept of democracy to know that he wants to destroy it, because it was democracy what got him kicked out of the presidency in the first place. Democracy is a huge impediment to him. Becoming president again will give him more attention, money, and opportunity for revenge than even he will ever be able to eat. I don't think it's enough for him anymore to simply fund-raise off the idea. I think he will do anything to get back in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, oblong said: I don’t think he even wants it to happen. Just wants to raise money. Money too and he raising plenty of it. Edited December 3, 2022 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, chasfh said: I definitely think Trump wants to be president, because he is intoxicated by the almost limitless power it affords him. He may not have cared much about being president before 2017, maybe because he thought it would be too much actual work or something, but once he got in there and saw he didn't have to hardly do jack shit, and experienced all the power that came with it, he got hooked and never wanted to let it go. I also think we give him too little credit when it comes to being stupid, ignorant, and clueless. He doesn't give a shit about working within a democracy, I agree, but I think he does give enough of a shit about the concept of democracy to know that he wants to destroy it, because it was democracy what got him kicked out of the presidency in the first place. Democracy is a huge impediment to him. Becoming president again will give him more attention, money, and opportunity for revenge than even he will ever be able to eat. I don't think it's enough for him anymore to simply fund-raise off the idea. I think he will do anything to get back in. I think he is having just as much fun now as he did then and probably making more money. He loves doing the everybody is against me schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I'm not sure it matters what his motivation is. The reality is that anyone who talks about "suspending the Constitution" is talking like an aspiring Dictator and shouldn't be anywhere near power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think he is having just as much fun now as he did then and probably making more money. He loves doing the everybody is against me schtick. I disagree. I don’t think it’s generating fun for him this go around. I think his motivation is actually fear that one or more of these investigations will produce indictments. I think he is also seeing the real possibility that he could actually lose civil case(s), criminal case(s), or both and have jail time be a distinct possibility (or even probability). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I think there is zero chance of him going to jail and he knows it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: I'm not sure it matters what his motivation is. The reality is that anyone who talks about "suspending the Constitution" is talking like an aspiring Dictator and shouldn't be anywhere near power. No doubt he should not be anywhere near a position of influence and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: I'm not sure it matters what his motivation is. The reality is that anyone who talks about "suspending the Constitution" is talking like an aspiring Dictator and shouldn't be anywhere near power. Sure. But I don’t see anything in what he’s just said that’s different from what he’s been saying for 7 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Has he been flat out talking about terminating the Constitution for a long time now? I’m not sure I’ve heard him be this direct about that, but I may have simply missed it while being sprayed with the fire hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, chasfh said: Has he been flat out talking about terminating the Constitution for a long time now? I’m not sure I’ve heard him be this direct about that, but I may have simply missed it while being sprayed with the fire hose. Yeah, this was uniquely unhinged even for him. Its normal in these circumstances for the anti-Trump types who are legal sophisticates to point out his pattern is to do this sort of thing when some ruling is coming down on him we don't know about. There have been plenty of things that Jan6 committee has lately that should cause him to go full Mussolini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, chasfh said: Has he been flat out talking about terminating the Constitution for a long time now? I’m not sure I’ve heard him be this direct about that, but I may have simply missed it while being sprayed with the fire hose. He probably feels as if he hasn't been getting enough attention lately, so he had to go to the next level. He's not organized or brave enough to go through with it. He's got people talking about what he said which is what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: He probably feels as if he hasn't been getting enough attention lately, so he had to go... It's on his Christmas wish list: "Santa, can I be dictator of America for life please? I've been a good boy this year, ask Nick Fuentes and Kanye West..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: The CI aspect of this is off the charts. A lot of people will die because of this. The arrogance of one asshole and his threats to the civil order. "But he was on TV!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 How many classified documents are lost for good because they are in the hands of someone who's not within our jurisdiction? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, chasfh said: How many classified documents are lost for good because they are in the hands of someone who's not within our jurisdiction? That's the dangerous question in all of this; and one that no one would be surprised if Trump has actually sold our National Security documents, probably to Russia or the Saudis... for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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