The Idiocracy of Donald J. Trump

[mtutiger]

8 minutes ago, Archie said:

Yes, Joe's comment on siding with Taiwan was interesting to say the least.  Psaki had to back track on that the next day.  They have to be careful letting Joe out and talking in public like this or he's going to get us into a war.  I wonder if Gen. Milley had to call his Chinese pals and tell them all is good and that our President got off his leash and didn't know what he said.  I've cared for relatives with dementia and Alzheimer's.  Its a terrible thing.  I obviously don't know if Biden has Alzheimer's but he is showing signs of moderate dementia.  Anderson Cooper had to help him finish some of his sentences and guide him along last week.  I figure if Reagan was able to finish his second term they will get Biden through his term.  I think even the democrats prefer that as opposed to Harris taking over. 

Just checking, where did you get your MD again? 

[The Ronz]

"Safe and secure elections" is not and never was a thing until Trump.

This is how many times the phrase "safe and secure elections" was used in newspapers across the country.

Source: Newspapers.com

1776 - 1829 - Unknown

1830's - 1

1840 - 1879 - 0

1880's - 1

1890's - 1

1900's - 3

1910's - 2

1920 - 1939 - 0

1940's - 2

1950's - 0

1960's - 1

1970's - 1

1980's - 0

1990's - 2

2000's - 91

2010 - 60

2020 - 2021 - 312

Wonder what changed in 2020? 🙄

 

[Jim Cowan]

"The country was safer because people were not allowed in from terrorist countries"

[oblong]

2 hours ago, Archie said:

There wear several poll workers that claimed signatures weren't matched.  There were poll watchers that weren't allowed in counting rooms during the count.  That should concern everyone.

I was at the Capitol in Lansing for the Right to Work protest.  Were you there?  It was quite entertaining.  I very happy RTW was enacted for the Michigan workers.  Its the best thing that could happen for them and the only thing that protects them from corrupt unions.    I have also attended county democrat party meetings and even the state convention several times.  Have you been to either of those?  I used to work for a union that required we attend these functions.  I even got to vote.  In a county meeting they are still looking for the person who wrote in Ted Nugent on one of the ballots.  I confess.

“Claimed”.  That’s not fact. People can claim lots of things.  Yes the poll watchers were not allowed in because they were already an excessive amount of other poll watchers already in there.  This bullshit was already hashed out as complete nonsense by the court system. This is the best you got?  It’s weak. You and Rudy and the stripper, errrr Escort that was an election IT worker, errr, I mean an election screen glass wiper person, can go find an audience of gullibles because the courts said you all are full of shit and lawyers are in trouble over it.  Pick better battles.  

[Archie]

1 hour ago, The Ronz said:

"Safe and secure elections" is not and never was a thing until Trump.

This is how many times the phrase "safe and secure elections" was used in newspapers across the country.

Source: Newspapers.com

1776 - 1829 - Unknown

1830's - 1

1840 - 1879 - 0

1880's - 1

1890's - 1

1900's - 3

1910's - 2

1920 - 1939 - 0

1940's - 2

1950's - 0

1960's - 1

1970's - 1

1980's - 0

1990's - 2

2000's - 91

2010 - 60

2020 - 2021 - 312

Wonder what changed in 2020? 🙄

 

What changed in 2020?  Voting rules were changed to accommodate Covid lockdowns .  Now democrats want to change the rules so people can vote without photo ID and have mail in ballots with no controls.  Their campaign motto for 2022 is "Vote Early and Vote Often."  😁

[The Ronz]

I have never been asked for a photo ID to vote.

Have you?

Mail in ballots have been around for years.

You do know that Trump votes by a mail in ballot right?

 

 

 

 

 

[mtutiger]

58 minutes ago, oblong said:

“Claimed”.  That’s not fact. People can claim lots of things.  Yes the poll watchers were not allowed in because they were already an excessive amount of other poll watchers already in there.  This bullshit was already hashed out as complete nonsense by the court system. This is the best you got?  It’s weak. You and Rudy and the stripper, errrr Escort that was an election IT worker, errr, I mean an election screen glass wiper person, can go find an audience of gullibles because the courts said you all are full of shit and lawyers are in trouble over it.  Pick better battles.  

There were upwards of 50 lawsuits, along with numerous recounts and audits that have been completed since this last election. And they have all not found any evidence of widespread voter fraud or irregularities.

It's inconvenient for some, I get that some folks are starting from a conclusion and working backward instead of the other way around. But that's just reality

Edited October 23, 2021 by mtutiger

[oblong]

This was one that got the gang riled up. But of course.  

[CMRivdogs]

39 minutes ago, Archie said:

What changed in 2020?  Voting rules were changed to accommodate Covid lockdowns .  Now democrats want to change the rules so people can vote without photo ID and have mail in ballots with no controls.  Their campaign motto for 2022 is "Vote Early and Vote Often."  😁

And in states like Pennsylvania it was the Republican legislature who changed the rules to allow more people to vote by absentee ballot by mail before the pandemic. In Michigan, the voters approved the expansion in voting by mail prior to March of 2020.

Do some research.  Don’t depend on your fake news sources.

[CMRivdogs]

4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

And in states like Pennsylvania it was the Republican legislature who changed the rules to allow more people to vote by absentee ballot by mail before the pandemic. In Michigan, the voters approved the expansion in voting by mail prior to March of 2020.

Do some research.  Don’t depend on your fake news sources.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Voting_Policies_in_State_Constitution_Initiative_(2018)

http://www.pahousegop.com/electionreform

[oblong]

32 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Voting_Policies_in_State_Constitution_Initiative_(2018)

http://www.pahousegop.com/electionreform

Quit bringing facts into it. 

[Motown Bombers]

Republicans always used vote by mail more than Democrats. It didn't become an issue for Republicans until inner city Democrats started using it. 

Edited October 23, 2021 by Motown Bombers

[pfife]

4 hours ago, Archie said:

There wear several poll workers that claimed signatures weren't matched.  There were poll watchers that weren't allowed in counting rooms during the count.  That should concern everyone.

I was at the Capitol in Lansing for the Right to Work protest.  Were you there?  It was quite entertaining.  I very happy RTW was enacted for the Michigan workers.  Its the best thing that could happen for them and the only thing that protects them from corrupt unions.    I have also attended county democrat party meetings and even the state convention several times.  Have you been to either of those?  I used to work for a union that required we attend these functions.  I even got to vote.  In a county meeting they are still looking for the person who wrote in Ted Nugent on one of the ballots.  I confess.

happy about right to work, pissed when companies fire people based on the rights given to them under the right to work legislation

[Archie]

2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

And in states like Pennsylvania it was the Republican legislature who changed the rules to allow more people to vote by absentee ballot by mail before the pandemic. In Michigan, the voters approved the expansion in voting by mail prior to March of 2020.

Do some research.  Don’t depend on your fake news sources.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/15/judge-rules-secretary-state-bensons-ballot-signature-verification-guidance-invalid/4699927001/

 

Why don't you do some research!

[CMRivdogs]

Best you can do. A ruling from a partisan hack appointed by a hack of a politician 

[CMRivdogs]

BTW, loved your Union story. Glad to know your taking advantage of benefits without having to do any heavy lifting

 

[Archie]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

BTW, loved your Union story. Glad to know your taking advantage of benefits without having to do any heavy lifting

 

Don't worry I more than earn my pay.  I took the job to work with the membership and assist them, not a political party.  There were a few conservatives or Republicans that I worked with. We had fun with political crap they wanted us to do.  I learned a lot about politics and the democrats in particular.  They are a very power hungry group.  One time at the state convention Debby Stabusnow brought a high school band with her.  Anytime she got up and moved, they followed her playing.  It was embarrassing to watch.

[Archie]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Best you can do. A ruling from a partisan hack appointed by a hack of a politician 

Sorry about facts getting in the way of your story.  Its the legal proof you wanted that you didn't bother to look for or know about.  If he's a partisan hack then I would assume you think every judge thats been appointed, and there are a lot of them, are all partisan hacks.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Archie said:

Don't worry I more than earn my pay.  I took the job to work with the membership and assist them, not a political party.  There were a few conservatives or Republicans that I worked with. We had fun with political crap they wanted us to do.  I learned a lot about politics and the democrats in particular.  They are a very power hungry group.  One time at the state convention Debby Stabusnow brought a high school band with her.  Anytime she got up and moved, they followed her playing.  It was embarrassing to watch.

Political parties are power hungry!  Who knew?  

[oblong]

The ruling wasn’t about the law itself but rather the procedure. 
 

from the article:

But Genetski did not allege that Benson's directive "caused him to accept a signature that he believed was invalid," according to Murray's decision.
 

The judge didn't rule on whether Benson's directive violated state election law, but did say the directive violated the Administrative Procedures Act, the process that must be followed when an agency creates new rules.

[Tiger337]

I don't follow politics as much as most people here do, but there were dozens of lawsuits from November through December and they were all denied.  Even the Trump selected Supreme Court rejected them.  There's nothing there.  The vote went through all the processes according to the constitution and they found nothing.  Trump was just too immature to admit that he lost the election and now he's making millions off his fake protests.  And all his supporters have fallen for it.  

[Archie]

Can you imagine what would happen if a court invaldated the election? It would be chaos and war in the streets.  I don't think anybody would take that responsibility for starting that. It would be a no win situation so it was best to do nothing.

[gehringer_2]

43 minutes ago, Archie said:

Can you imagine what would happen if a court invaldated the election? It would be chaos and war in the streets.  I don't think anybody would take that responsibility for starting that. It would be a no win situation so it was best to do nothing.

ROTFLMAO - tell that to the Scotus members that voted Bush V Gore!

[Archie]

13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

ROTFLMAO - tell that to the Scotus members that voted Bush V Gore!

They didn't overturn the results of an election.  

[oblong]

1 hour ago, Archie said:

Can you imagine what would happen if a court invaldated the election? It would be chaos and war in the streets.  I don't think anybody would take that responsibility for starting that. It would be a no win situation so it was best to do nothing.

Oh… do that’s the reason. Not that the claims were invalid.  You didn’t move the goalposts you took them down.