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The Idiocracy of Donald J. Trump


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2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The important thing to remember in all the obfuscation and excuses and the whataboutisms coming from the Rs is this:

If any of us made off with any of these documents, we would spend the rest of our lives in jail. Donald Trump will not.

Didn't Reality Winner get like 5 years for releasing an intelligence report? 

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27 minutes ago, oblong said:

The problem is too many of the voters, while claiming they don't like the crazies, will still vote for them because the D is a "socialist" or something.

We need to stop giving credence to people that "too far to the left" is a serious concern that justifies voting for a MAGA candidate over a more progressive or liberal one. If one candidate wants universal healthcare through a government run system, a tax on carbon, equity for Trans people, and law that regulate big business earnings and another candidates is being supported by someone who says Jews have no place in the conservative movement, thinks raped women should be forced be bear a child, wants to seize voting machines, and believes Christianity should be a national religion, we cannot continue to accept those as equal concerns. We cannot allow the bothsidesm argument, nor be scared off from endorsing certain candidates because some random group of ignorant voters out there find them "too far to the left". We need to buck that argument and develop a good retort to it because if we give credence to that and allow people to scapegoat based on that argument, we're failing our democracy, our country, and the majority of people.

Conversely, progressives need to reckon with the whole argument of "I didn't get everything I wanted, therefore I'm not voting" way of thinking. If one, more center or center-left candidate is giving you most of what you want or a decent amount and isn't going around railing against gays, trans people, Jews, minorities, women, the FBI, democratic values, then you have to vote for that person. We cannot allow progressive escapism either.

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1 hour ago, smr-nj said:


can a reporter please ask one of these idiots, “for what purpose would the former president be taking these documents, any of these documents, to his place of residence?“

WHaT IS THE REASON FOR TAKING ANY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT??? 
 

For Christ sakes. 

But Hilary...

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59 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

But Hilary...

To be honest, that was my issue with Hillary, not so much that it was done, but why was it done.  What did she want control over and why?  I always felt those were legitimate questions and my guess is all MAGA folks would agree with me.  Funny now though, guessing instead of asking why, they'll be playing the legal line claiming as POTUS, he can't illegally disclose confidential information as he is allowed to.  I know there is still a process, but he may have a legal standing (assuming that is what this search was for).  That said, why?   That is the question that should be asked by everyone.

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24 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

To be honest, that was my issue with Hillary, not so much that it was done, but why was it done.  What did she want control over and why?  I always felt those were legitimate questions and my guess is all MAGA folks would agree with me.  Funny now though, guessing instead of asking why, they'll be playing the legal line claiming as POTUS, he can't illegally disclose confidential information as he is allowed to.  I know there is still a process, but he may have a legal standing (assuming that is what this search was for).  That said, why?   That is the question that should be asked by everyone.

Hillary wanted to be able to conduct her off the books activities without being subject to records retention. Why she didn't just keep a personal e-mail account I don't know - maybe it's not allowed? (I doubt that). In any case, in the end I blame the trouble Hillary's email issue caused for the Dems on Obama. It's simply not a credible argument that the administration didn't know Hillary's business mail was coming from a non-DoS account. So they had to have known but decided to give her a pass. And that decision had to come from the White House - not credible it could have been any other way. Obama or his CoS either being lax or not wanting to push the issue or even because maybe he figured she might eventually be hoist on her own petard and didn't mind if it happened. Whatever the reason, it turned to be a bad decision for the Admin and the repercussions ended up giving us Trump.

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