chasfh Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Soto may simply not want to commit to Washington at the moment. He may not like the direction they’re going there, at least yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Soto is 5th all time in OPS+ among players at his age only trailing Ted Williams, Mike Trout, Stan Musial and Ty Cobb. All 4 of those guys got even better after that so there's no reason to think Soto won't as well. I think he has a real chance of being the first 500 million dollar player when he hits FA at 26 he is just that special of player and hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 5:00 AM, Cruzer1 said: I disagree. He's going to get a great deal. I'm sure your right but 350 million birds in hand ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: I'm sure your right but 350 million birds in hand ....... That's a lot of poop on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: I'm sure your right but 350 million birds in hand ....... "350 million birds in hand"-- That image leaves me in a fowl mood. I guess the offer wasn't egg- stravagant enough for him. He's sound a little flighty, but I'm sure he's hatched a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 No comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Maybe Soto would rather wait to get 350 million from the Dodgers or the Yankees later than take 350 million from the Nationals now. There’s no reason to believe he won’t get at least that same amount in three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Or maybe Soto and his agent want to give the Nationals the next three years to demonstrate that they are going to put a long-term winning organization together that can rival the Dodgers and the Yankees. That’s a real possibility, too. Soto is already going to make a record first-year arbitration amount whenever baseball gets back on the track. There’s no pressure to take all the money he’s ever going to make right now, or else. Edited February 20, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Health is the risk factor. Soto's pre-FA money could be over $90M if he stays healthy. $100M is possible. 19 - .57 20 - .23 21 - 8.5 22 - 16.5? MLBTR 23 - 28? 24 - 40? 25 - FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 I know this has come up on the old site but has anybody read Ty Cobb A Terrible Beaity? I'm about 10% in. Really enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, oblong said: I know this has come up on the old site but has anybody read Ty Cobb A Terrible Beaity? I'm about 10% in. Really enjoy it. Yes, Charles Leerhsen is a great writer. Much better biography than that trash Al Stump wrote..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I posted this in the bar and grill section but wanted to make sure you guys get a chance to watch this if you haven't yet. So with baseball not happening anytime soon I revisted this with my 13 yo son, he enjoyed it. If you have not watched it is a great baseball story I knew nothing about. I mean Big League Chew was invented in the bat boys parents kitchen? You can't make this stuff up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hzglory Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, oblong said: I know this has come up on the old site but has anybody read Ty Cobb A Terrible Beaity? I'm about 10% in. Really enjoy it. I really enjoyed it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 9:07 AM, chasfh said: Or maybe Soto and his agent want to give the Nationals the next three years to demonstrate that they are going to put a long-term winning organization together that can rival the Dodgers and the Yankees. That’s a real possibility, too. Soto is already going to make a record first-year arbitration amount whenever baseball gets back on the track. There’s no pressure to take all the money he’s ever going to make right now, or else. its about the money. its always about the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmitch55 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I posted this in the bar and grill section but wanted to make sure you guys get a chance to watch this if you haven't yet. So with baseball not happening anytime soon I revisted this with my 13 yo son, he enjoyed it. If you have not watched it is a great baseball story I knew nothing about. I mean Big League Chew was invented in the bat boys parents kitchen? You can't make this stuff up! My all time favorite baseball movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 15 hours ago, buddha said: its about the money. its always about the money. The money wasn’t enough for Soto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, chasfh said: The money wasn’t enough for Soto. right, he wants more. because its about the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, chasfh said: The money wasn’t enough for Soto. Right, he wanted more money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 buddha types faster than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Of course he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 It's not the money...it's the amount 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Soto at age 22 hit like Barry Bonds at age 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 That's why he doesn't have to take the money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 He'd be crazy to take the money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Speaking of transcendent hitters, let's talk about Ray Oyler. Most of us know how just incredibly awful he was at the plate in 1968. Some of us were alive then to remember it. He was a glove-first shortstop; it was the Year of the Pitcher. The poor guy didn't stand much of a chance. But I had no idea that that his last hit of the season came on July 13: Thirty-three games, nine as a starter. Forty trips to the plate, 36 of them at bats. Zero hits. An .000/.053/.000 slash line for basically the entire second half of the season. No wonder Mickey Stanley started at shortstop in the World Series. Here's another fun Oyler fact: In 1967—the only season Ray finished above the Mendoza line—his slash line was a relatively lofty .207/.281/.264. He was still a two-win player that season. That's how good that glove of his was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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