RandyMarsh Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 Jones had that good few month stretch back in 2018 I believe where he looked like he could be a piece going forward, iirc he was at an 800-850 OPS over a couple hundred AB stretch but then he got hurt again and never came close to those numbers after that. Another thing about him is that he was older than some people thought, or atleast I thought anyway. It took him so long to get called up that you didn't realize he was already 26 or 27 at that point. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 6:19 PM, gehringer_2 said: I don't think there is anything personnel or subtle in Jones' case. He's a liability with the bat to the point were there were too many OF in front of him and too little belief in the org that anything would change that for there to be any point to him staying. He was just good enough at his best to get some MLB time with a very bad team. Expand Right. He's a career .215/.275/.371 hitter in 1195 career PA. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 Fangraphs home page has a link to like 5 different Tigers openings in their analytics department. Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 3:38 PM, Edman85 said: I've heard that the reliance in baseball on R is an accident of history. The first analyst to deep dive databases used it, so everybody else does. Expand I don't like R. I use it sometimes because it does some things other languages don't do well. However, I think it's unnecessarily complex for performing simple tasks. Quote
romad1 Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 9:42 PM, RandyMarsh said: Fangraphs home page has a link to like 5 different Tigers openings in their analytics department. Expand that’s true Quote
romad1 Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 11:03 PM, Tiger337 said: I don't like R. I use it sometimes because it does some things other languages don't do well. However, I think it's unnecessarily complex for performing simple tasks. Expand Dad joke: i’ll bet pittsburg uses it…except that org is notorious for being bad 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) so there is story at MLB.com about Verdugo wanting to try relief pitching as a two way player next season. Boston is pretty cool to the idea but the interesting thing to me was that Verdugo was talking about the repertoire he used to throw, in high school, which was 2014, and he said he doubted his curve could be as good again as it was without the sticky stuff. That is, as a HS school pitcher in 2014, Verdugo was using stickem. https://www.mlb.com/news/alex-verdugo-wants-to-pitch-for-red-sox Edited October 9, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 11:10 PM, romad1 said: Dad joke: i’ll bet pittsburg uses it…except that org is notorious for being bad Expand One of the other coaches on my daughter's softball team apparently grew up working for the Pirates during the Leyland years. Says they continue to have a reputation for deliberate stupidity since that time. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 1:46 AM, romad1 said: One of the other coaches on my daughter's softball team apparently grew up working for the Pirates during the Leyland years. Says they continue to have a reputation for deliberate stupidity since that time. Expand Syd Thrift, Dave Littlefield, Neal Huntington….actually anyone since John Galbreath sold the team. Quote
oblong Posted October 9, 2021 Author Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 9:42 PM, RandyMarsh said: Fangraphs home page has a link to like 5 different Tigers openings in their analytics department. Expand Wonder if that represents new positions or openings from people leaving? Hopefully the former and a result of the recent promotions and a new direction Quote
casimir Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 4:00 PM, Edman85 said: Did JaCoby Jones declaring free agency on Wednesday make this thread? He did. Expand Who? 1 Quote
casimir Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 9:42 PM, RandyMarsh said: Fangraphs home page has a link to like 5 different Tigers openings in their analytics department. Expand Drat, none of them are for message board GM? My dream job still doesn't exist..... Quote
romad1 Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 2:23 AM, CMRivdogs said: Syd Thrift, Dave Littlefield, Neal Huntington….actually anyone since John Galbreath sold the team. Expand Syd Thrift sounds like a dime store villain Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 To Thrift’s credit, he was the guy who hired Jim Leyland as Pirates Manager. Quote
Edman85 Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Here's your list of minor league free agents, who are eligible. Jose Appleton Juan Centeno Cale Coshow Isrreal De La Cruz Yariel Gonzalez Carlos Guzman Wilkel Hernandez Xavier Javier A.J. Ladwig Mark Leiter Jr. Josh Lester Henry Martinez Gerson Moreno Pedro Payano Franklin Perez Ricardo Pinto Wladimir Pinto Aderlin Rodriguez Elvin Rodriguez Jesus Rodriguez Zac Shepherd Gresuan Silverio Locke St. John Christin Stewart Christhian Tortosa Drew Ward It is possible that the Tigers have worked out non-public extensions with some of these guys. For anybody you want to keep that you don't have signed to a minor league extension, you can add the 40 man roster before they declare free agency five days after the World Series ends. Many players on the 40-man roster currently would also be free agents if they are outrighted. This is an exclusive list, not to say that all these guys are candidates, but it is difficult to draw the line. Tyler Alexander Matthew Boyd Daz Cameron Jeimer Candelario Harold Castro Willi Castro Jose Cisnero Miguel Del Pozo Michael Fulmer Rony Garcia Dustin Garneau Niko Goodrum Grayson Greiner Eric Haase Derek Hill Drew Hutchison Joe Jimenez Ian Krol Isaac Paredes Victor Reyes Gregory Soto Spencer Turnbull Quote
romad1 Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 11:07 PM, romad1 said: that’s true Expand So, these are many more than the 4 jobs listed on Fangraphs. I count 14 although some of these are not in analytics (one is security supervisor others are in marketing etc.) https://www.teamworkonline.com/baseball-jobs/baseballjobs/detroit-tigers Quote
1776 Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Today is Jim Price’s 80th birthday. Happy Birthday to the big guy. 3 Quote
theroundsquare Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) octogenerial buggywhip happy birthday to jim price Edited October 13, 2021 by theroundsquare Quote
Jim Cowan Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Wherever Jim spends the rest of his days, I hope it will be in a nice area. 3 Quote
Edman85 Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 The Tigers re-upped with Bally Sports going forward. I wonder if they got the payday they hoped for. I know they were exploring an RSN, but RSN's have kinda taken a dive with cord cutting the past few years. Quote
TheWordIsBird Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 9:06 PM, Edman85 said: The Tigers re-upped with Bally Sports going forward. I wonder if they got the payday they hoped for. I know they were exploring an RSN, but RSN's have kinda taken a dive with cord cutting the past few years. Expand Sadly, I can’t help but think that Shep will be back in the driver’s seat for yet another season of calling Tigers games in 2022. 🤨 What I wouldn’t give for a better baseball PxP man (and supporting cast, save for Peaches and an occasional Gibby appearance). Edited October 13, 2021 by TheWordIsBird Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Aside from getting rid of Shep what I wouldn't give to get rid of that stupid pick to stick game they play. If they want to do that privately or even just in the pre and post show fine go ahead since I rarely watch them anyway but I don't need to see and hear them talk about it throughout the game. Quote
mtutiger Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 5:12 PM, 1776 said: Today is Jim Price’s 80th birthday. Happy Birthday to the big guy. Expand Ya can't make it up folks Quote
mtutiger Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 9:53 PM, TheWordIsBird said: Sadly, I can’t help but think that Shep will be back in the driver’s seat for yet another season of calling Tigers games in 2022. 🤨 What I wouldn’t give for a better baseball PxP man (and supporting cast, save for Peaches and an occasional Gibby appearance). Expand The playoffs have been pretty enlightening in terms of how far behind the local broadcast is PBP wise. Brian Anderson and Don Orsillo are just lightyears better than ol' Shep.... and even the non-Buck Fox folks aren't too bad either. Edited October 13, 2021 by mtutiger Quote
Edman85 Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 10:02 PM, mtutiger said: The playoffs have been pretty enlightening in terms of how far behind the local broadcast is PBP wise. Brian Anderson and Don Orsillo are just lightyears better than ol' Shep.... and even the non-Buck Fox folks aren't too bad either. Expand Obviously the creme de la creme get picked for playoffs... or I should say the available creme de la creme. I stumbed across some Orioles games this year, and they have their own version of Shep. Quote
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