2022 Offseason Thread

[buddha]

5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I 100% am way more hyped than I should be lol

me too!

datsyuk 2.0!  lol.

[slothfacekilla]

I may also be overhyping  myself on Anton Johansson too:

 

nice little forward pass in the neutral zone to spring them

 

 

nicStrong play + pass to set up another goal, 1+2 in this game.  He looks like he has pretty solid awareness and physical abilities, get Kronwall on the ice with him asap!

[buddha]

Pronman ranks the wings #2 in under 23 talent.  seider and raymond on top, of course.  he put sebrango way too low for me.  #13.

seider

raymond

edvinsson

kasper

zadina

soderblum

veleno

berggren

cossa

buium

wallinder

johannson

sebrango

mazur

niederbach

top 4 ranked as top line players.  players through berggren ranked as middle line players.  cossa seen as a backup goalie now.  everyone from buium on down ranked as "projected to play nhl games."

i think that's way too low for mazur and sebrango.  disappointing for cossa but not unexpected because NEVER DRAFT A GOALIE IN ROUND ONE.  but he's young and still a big project.  he could come good eventually.

[Shinzaki]

He lists Edvinsson as an "NHL average" skater.  First I've ever seen his skating listed as anything but above average

[buddha]

31 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

He lists Edvinsson as an "NHL average" skater.  First I've ever seen his skating listed as anything but above average

he lists so many folks as "nhl average" that it makes me wonder which nhl games he's been watching.

maybe its because ive been watching too many red wings games?

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, buddha said:

maybe its because ive been watching too many red wings games?

LOL - Indeed! Last years Wings would have killed to be an 'average' skating team.

[slothfacekilla]

I used to really like Pronman's stuff but more and more of his evaluations baffle me as time goes on.  Seems weird to me to have Mazur so far down his list when he's done nothing but impress since being drafted. Sebrango has already played against men and held his own.  I feel like the Athletic writers seem to gravitate towards smaller highly skilled players when wanting to give good evaluations.  Unfortunately you need other types of players to build a winning team...

[slothfacekilla]

 

 

 

[lordstanley]

 

[slothfacekilla]

I am interested to see how Zadina does with a new coaching staff.  I could see this contract being a steal but I could also see him not living up to it just as easily.

[buddha]

similar to what ras got.

[1984Echoes]

Well...

It's going to be put up or shut up time for both of those guys...

Really quick.

Ras seemed to pick up near the end of the season...

But both of them will need to turn it up a few notches... or end up as trade bait. Attractive contract unless they turn into pixie dust...

But I'm just guessing...

[buddha]

i think ras will be fine for what he is: a 3rd or 4th line guy.  he should get stronger and hopefully that will result in a guy who can get to the net and not be moved and shows some physical forechecking ability.  cause they need that badly.

its just not what you want from the #9 pick.

as for zadina, he's still young and could be on a line with vrana.  he could produce.

but i'll believe it when i see him stop shooting every puck either directly at the goalie or missing the net completely.

let's see what a new system can do with them.

[gehringer_2]

yeah - whatever they see in Zadina must show up in practice because you sure don't see it in the games. Maybe he was doing a little better as a forechecker in the course of the season, otherwise still a disappointment. I have a memory burned in my brain of a Wings power play when Blash apparently decided they were going to force feed 'Z' and they set him up for something like 7 consecutive shots from the right side slot and he missed or hit the goalie in the chest 7 out of 7. It was doubly frustrating because it was so rare to see the Wings be able to sustain possession like that and then just to waste it all for guy who couldn't make good play with the puck.

[slothfacekilla]

On 8/24/2022 at 1:01 PM, buddha said:

me too!

datsyuk 2.0!  lol.

Apparently he's been moved up to SKA's second line which is kinda nuts!

[buddha]

pronman's list of under 23 players:

seider #2 behind jack hughes.

raymond #9

edvinsson #32

kasper #67

zadina in the 80s, elmer the great in the 90s.

[slothfacekilla]

https://themalikreport.com/2022/08/30/ivan-ivans-going-to-be-attending-the-red-wings-prospect-tournament-as-a-try-out/

 

 

 

[slothfacekilla]

Buch played in the KHL opener I think but now he's down scoring in the MHL.  I read that SKA's teams are so close to each other they like to cycle their prospects through all 3 levels when they can so it'll be interesting to see what he does this season.

 

 

 

Kasper's skating looks improved a little bit maybe?  Either way he's looking good in the SHL so far this season I would say.

Edited September 5, 2022 by slothfacekilla

[1984Echoes]

The trick with Buchelnikov is, how do we get him out of Russia?

Without endangering his family from Putin's thugs?

Going to be very, very tricky.

[lordstanley]

Bold, Sergei, bold. 
 

 

[buddha]

he's done that before, right?

[slothfacekilla]

Hmmm this is odd

 

 

Kasper is having such a good start to his season

 

 

 

 

 

[buddha]

i make fun of people on the tigers' thread who link to youtube videos of prospects but i eat that up on the wings forum.  i love it.

#yzerplan

[slothfacekilla]

 

Wallinder ended with 3 assists and Kasper had 2 assists.

 

Stole this from HF boards

So far Kasper is incredible at suppressing shots and he has 6 points in 4 games.  Tough to not be excited about this kind of play from a young center.

 

Amadeus Lombardi apparently played as Flint's top line center in their first preseason game, he scored a goal.  I'm hoping we get some game footage of this kid this season, why can't everyone play in the SHL?!

 

 

[slothfacekilla]

 

 

 

Prospect Tournament stuff started: