chasfh Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 How’s this for a kickoff post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Saw a tweet said he was first elected to state office during Eisenhower's presidency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Cowan Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I know that there is still a lot of time left but right now it looks like I won't be voting in your midterms. The border is slowly opening but I have mixed vax doses, one Pfizer and one Moderna, and it isn't clear whether every country is going to approve mixed doses. So my plans are on hold. Ordinarily I would vote in Buffalo, Erie, and Cleveland, and try to make it to Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 You're hitting all the wrong spots. Those areas are all predetermined. You should be voting in Traverse City, Manistee, Mt. Pleasant, Webberville, Ypsilanti and Cheboygan. Can I get you a map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 LOL I'd be interested in why you picked those towns, was it random? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smr-nj Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, pfife said: Excellent idea. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 That kinda talk probably was a factor in the Georgia runoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 prediction for democrats: pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Prediction for us all pain. We are back on the slippery slope to company towns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Prediction for us all pain. We are back on the slippery slope to company towns how so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Probably not as bad as the early 1900s. But the oligarchs are taking over if the Trumpists have their way. We’ll owe our soul to the company stores Sorry just feeling very morbid today Edited October 15, 2021 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Probably not as bad as the early 1900s. But the oligarchs are taking over if the Trumpists have their way. We’ll owe our soul to the company stores Sorry just feeling very morbid today how is that any different from what happens and has happened under the democrats? the democratic party is as beholden to big tech, amazon, et al as republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 You got a point. I’ll just go back to yelling at deer in my yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, buddha said: how is that any different from what happens and has happened under the democrats? the democratic party is as beholden to big tech, amazon, et al as republicans. John Deere union labor had better watch out before the ownership of that company moves their factories to the Parcel Islands or some previously unknown seamount off Hainan island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, buddha said: how is that any different from what happens and has happened under the democrats? the democratic party is as beholden to big tech, amazon, et al as republicans. One of the big differences I see is the democrats want to tax the corporations more to pay their "fair share." In today's global economy the corporations hold all the cards. They will shop around to find their best deal to build their factories. If a city, state or country want to raise their taxes they pull up stakes and move to another city, state or country and the jobs go away. I wish we could tax the corporations to pay their fair share but everyone needs the jobs and what tax money they can get. This was different years ago when it wasn't so easy to move a factory over seas and ship goods back to the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 That has only happened because we let the market decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Archie said: One of the big differences I see is the democrats want to tax the corporations more to pay their "fair share." In today's global economy the corporations hold all the cards. They will shop around to find their best deal to build their factories. If a city, state or country want to raise their taxes they pull up stakes and move to another city, state or country and the jobs go away. I wish we could tax the corporations to pay their fair share but everyone needs the jobs and what tax money they can get. This was different years ago when it wasn't so easy to move a factory over seas and ship goods back to the US. actually this democrat would be happy to see corporate income tax disappear - as long as every income earner above ~250K had to pay a stiff absolute minimum tax and every dividend and stock option was valued and taxed as regular income. Edited October 15, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I feel a flat tax on all income with zero deductions would be the way to go. Then everyone feels the same pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Comical. Just pure comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Archie said: I feel a flat tax on all income with zero deductions would be the way to go. Then everyone feels the same pinch. sounds like a tax cut for rich people and an increase for poor people. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: actually this democrat would be happy to see corporate income tax disappear - as long as every income earner above ~250K had to pay a stiff absolute minimum tax and every dividend and stock option was valued and taxed as regular income. everyone who has a 401(k) disagrees with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, buddha said: everyone who has a 401(k) disagrees with you Why - 401K are retirement accounts - you don't pay the tax until you take it out. If anything stock values would go up as US companies immediately became more competitive. Plus we'd get to tick off the Euro's again, which is always fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Why - 401K are retirement accounts - you don't pay the tax until you take it out. If anything stock values would go up as US companies immediately became more competitive. Plus we'd get to tick off the Euro's again, which is always fun. lol. stock prices would not go up because people would look for other places to invest their money to not pay your new taxes. come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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