2022 Trade Deadline

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[KL2]

22 minutes ago, Dtrain72 said:

You guys are cute, all thinking Chris would ever fire Al...Chris was born on home plate with no ridges in his brain; Al's gonna work him for every penny he can get...only way Al goes is if he actually resigns.  Al may very well still be GM in 2030, orchestrating his 4th rebuild from rebuilding the rebuild he previously failed rebuilding prior to the 1st rebuild.

Didn't Chris already get rid of one gm of a team he owns?

[buddha]

1 minute ago, KL2 said:

Didn't Chris already get rid of one gm of a team he owns?

is there a steve yzerman equivalent for the tigers?

[Scottwood]

It's amazing that Fulmer realistically could have been moved a couple seasons ago for at least one top 100 prospect and then is finally moved for a random AA starter after Fulmer had a number of injuries and had to shift to the bullpen. That was underwhelming. But, par for the course for Avila and his general asset management.  

So, not surprising that nothing happened with Skubal, Soto, Lange, etc.

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, KL2 said:

Didn't Chris already get rid of one gm of a team he owns?

I believe that firing or removing Avila as GM is within the range of actual possibilities for this upcoming offseason.

But the fanbase is cynical, not without reason. And it would take that actually happening for people to believe it.

[Dan Gilmore]

As others have suggested, Al could get the “promotion” to senior advisor status and a new GM brought in, instead of being actually fired. I could see that happening.

[Tenacious D]

I just hope one of our new Fettery Tickets pan out.

[Edman85]

If Avila is let go, I'd bet they stay in house and promote Menzin.

[buddha]

1 minute ago, Edman85 said:

If Avila is let go, I'd bet they stay in house and promote Menzin.

that would be the easiest and simplest thing to do, so that's the most likely thing that will happen.

[KL2]

30 minutes ago, buddha said:

is there a steve yzerman equivalent for the tigers?

Irrelevant to the idea that Chris will never get rid of anybody

[buddha]

2 minutes ago, KL2 said:

Irrelevant to the idea that Chris will never get rid of anybody

not really.  if he had a family friend who wanted the job and was also super successful at it and was a club legend, it would be appropriate.

but they dont.

[RatkoVarda]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

There were some other bad returns on trades besides just ours. The Cubs got a bag of balls for Dave Robertson, and they didn’t move Contreras or Happ at all. 

Brown has a very short track record but he performing at or above the T Madden/D Smith level right now. Brown would have been a solid return for Det.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

I was just thinking before coming into this thread about whether we would hear that Avila couldn’t move Soto, Chafin, or Jimenez because he was asking for the moon and the stars for some or all of them.

[Useful Idiot]

Okay Al Avila qualified our strategy going in to the deadline as only being interested in making the Tigers "better", and we end up sending Fulmer and Grossman away for "cheap and controllable" nobodies in return.

And,we DFA  OF Derek Hill as well......so I guess the net tangible  benefit we get out of all this is opening 3 roster slots?

I really didn't expect us to trade Soto with his nice pre-arb salary, and I really didn't expect the rest of major league baseball to have much interest in becoming more like the Tigers......so....in the all-together.  I'm not too surprised here.

 

Speculating, but I suspect the main reason Hill got axed is because Victor Reyes did not play well enough to stimulate trade interest......so if the consideration came down to whether to ax Hill or ax Reyes, I think the Tigers made the right decision,...for once

Edited August 3, 2022 by Useful Idiot

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

A 24 year old pitcher in AA who has an ERA north of 7. I think I would have rather just kept Fulmer.

IOW, a bag of balls

[sabretooth]

7 hours ago, mtutiger said:

This is what bothers me the most about the past few years with the Tigers.... as much as we complain about how much the owner of this club will spend or if he'll want to cheap out in certain instances (all well deserved), teams like the A's, Brewers and Rays always seem to manage to field a competitive club in most years without spending even as much as the Tigers will. And that is because they know how to draft, develop and acquire talent.

I've been keeping an open-mind on the new player development hires that have happened in the minor leagues and maybe they will make a difference going forward. And certainly that needs to be accounted for as well as the presence of AJ and his staff, who I would like to see stay on as well. But the reality is that the guy at the top has tried and failed for far too long at this and he needs to go.

yes

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

is there a steve yzerman equivalent for the tigers?

we can only hope to find out.

[Motor City Sonics]

Hell, I'd give Yzerman a shot at the Tigers instead of another year with Al.     He would probably hire the right people.  

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

we can only hope to find out.

Or, hear me out, maybe Avila being replaced by someone who isn't a former Detroit Athlete is within the range of possibilities?

Edited August 3, 2022 by mtutiger

[romad1]

Kirk Gibson is the Steve Yzerman equivalent in that he's smart, open to new ideas and was a champion with us.  But he's ill.

Maybe Alex Avila is the answer. 

[gehringer_2]

Just now, romad1 said:

Kirk Gibson is the Steve Yzerman equivalent in that he's smart, open to new ideas and was a champion with us.  But he's ill.

Maybe Alex Avila is the answer. 

Well that's one way to make sure Al leaves. He never wanted he and Alex to work in the same org!

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I believe that firing or removing Avila as GM is within the range of actual possibilities for this upcoming offseason.

But the fanbase is cynical, not without reason. And it would take that actually happening for people to believe it.

No, the main question is who would replace him? Tram? 

[Sports_Freak]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

A 24 year old pitcher in AA who has an ERA north of 7. I think I would have rather just kept Fulmer.

And extended him for 2 years or so.

[Tenacious D]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

No, the main question is who would replace him? Tram? 

Joel Zumaya

[Tenacious D]

4 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

How we doing?  Avila working on his, “we made a lot of calls, but couldn’t find a fit that we thought was going to make us a better team” talking points?