Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: If Wenceel is able to grab ahold of, and hold onto, 2B for the Tigers... Then yeah, Jung is probably headed to DH. I thought Kreidler was the second baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, SoCalTiger said: Great we drafted a DH. Aren’t those available every off season for about 5 mil ? We're in so desparate a need to good MLB bats that I can actually live with this. Especially if he actually does have a special bat. I won't cry over an Edgar Martinez. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: I thought Kreidler was the second baseman. Wasn't he the utility guy? With a good enough glove for 2B-SS-3B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Don’t like the pick. Another defensive liability. Al’s specialty. Can’t wait for Al to describe the “sound of his bat hitting a ball “. Defense is so overrated. We won a lot of games with a bad fielding group. That wasn't what cost us the world series. If you can field great but can't hit nobody cares. Nobody ever won with a bunch of Adam evettets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Not saying he is necessarily wrong but let's face it no matter who we drafted Shep would've said it was a great pick. They could've picked me and he'd be like "He's 40 years old with a ton of message board experience so he's not some immature High School kid, he will bring a wealth of knowledge to the young tigers hitters. Great start to the draft for the Tigers!" He is annoying. I don't know why...Blaha was the same way for the Pistons but he is not near as annoying as Shepard. Shep just always seems like he is trying too hard to suck up to the baseball boys club and Blaha never felt that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 I've seen some comps to Max Muncy, if he were to end up like him that would definitely be a home run. I would even settle for something like a 2021 Robbie Grossman who can also handle 2B in small doses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, KL2 said: Defense is so overrated. We won a lot of games with a bad fielding group. That wasn't what cost us the world series. If you can field great but can't hit nobody cares. Nobody ever won with a bunch of Adam evettets Well agreed but aren’t there players that can hit and field? Plus defense is very important especially if you can’t turn double plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, KL2 said: Defense is so overrated. We won a lot of games with a bad fielding group. That wasn't what cost us the world series. If you can field great but can't hit nobody cares. Nobody ever won with a bunch of Adam evettets I think defense is underrated. If you have great defense, it can turn an average staff into a good one. With all the strikeouts in today's game, it matters less than it used to. but it's still important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: We're in so desparate a need to good MLB bats that I can actually live with this. Especially if he actually does have a special bat. I won't cry over an Edgar Martinez. Not at all. I hope you are right but Edgar Martinez might be just a little greedy don’t you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Maybe he can learn 1B. He and Tork can swap back and forth between 1B and DH... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, SoCalTiger said: I hope you are right but Edgar Martinez might be just a little greedy don’t you think. But I AM greedy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, KL2 said: Defense is so overrated. We won a lot of games with a bad fielding group. That wasn't what cost us the world series. If you can field great but can't hit nobody cares. Nobody ever won with a bunch of Adam evettets There has never been a team of elite fielders who can't hit. So, we'll never know what such a team would do. Ideally, a team is at least average in every facet and obove average in a couple of areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, SoCalTiger said: Well agreed but aren’t there players that can hit and field? Plus defense is very important especially if you can’t turn double plays. It's hard to get guys who are projected to provide plus defense up the middle and plus offense with the 13th pick. You're generally going to get guys with some question marks there, whether it be defense, hitting, lack of projection or age.(being young and not knowing how they will age) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 he looks like billy butler....or chris shelton. that guy plays second base? i never would have thought that. but if issac paredes can play second, i dont know why jung cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottwood Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) A good DH still has a lot of value, particularly with both leagues having a DH now. As long as he hits well, Jung will be a good pick. He has a really good hitter profile. Of course, it is still on the Tigers to develop him. Edited July 18, 2022 by Scottwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: I hope you are right but Edgar Martinez might be just a little greedy don’t you think. Eric Munson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalTiger said: I hope you are right but Edgar Martinez might be just a little greedy don’t you think. PS: He has a high Hit tool, great plate discipline, and some, but not monstrous, power. We'll see how that works out... but it's an Edgar profile... would love to see him hit that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I thought Kreidler was the second baseman. I know Kriedler is supposed to be a decent shortstop but how many 6'4 second baseman are there around baseball? I would imagine his best position will end up being third base. Although I certainly wouldn't rule out second base. I am hoping the Tigers hit on one of Keith, Lipcius, or Kriedler at third base...assuming Candelario can't get his stroke back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, RandyMarsh said: It's hard to get guys who are projected to provide plus defense up the middle and plus offense with the 13th pick. You're generally going to get guys with some question marks there, whether it be defense, hitting, lack of projection or age.(being young and not knowing how they will age) Seems I’m the greedy one 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, buddha said: he looks like billy butler....or chris shelton. that guy plays second base? i never would have thought that. but if issac paredes can play second, i dont know why jung cant. Ryan Raburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think defense is underrated. If you have great defense, it can turn an average staff into a good one. With all the strikeouts in today's game, it matters less than it used to. but it's still important. Defense can be underrated in terms of the effect it has on your record but it's also easier to acquire great defenders via trades/FA than it is to acquire plus offensive players. Also defense seems to be less predictable year to year so unless you are top tier its hard to know what you are going to get year to year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think defense is underrated. If you have great defense, it can turn an average staff into a good one. With all the strikeouts in today's game, it matters less than it used to. but it's still important. Plus who knows what the game will look like in 5-10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: PS: He has a high Hit tool, great plate discipline, and some, but not monstrous, power. We'll see how that works out... but it's an Edgar profile... would love to see him hit that. Ok I’m with you. Fingers crossed 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 how many analytical psychology jokes can we make during his career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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