Motor City Sonics Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: Grossman is back bay bee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: youre the one who said that if the organization cared about the fans they would dfa him, right? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, buddha said: youre the one who said that if the organization cared about the fans they would dfa him, right? lol. Yes, and I stand by that. The way someone said "back bay-bee" it reminded me of that Frank Costanza moment. They should DFA (or trade him). He's not part of the future and this season is lost. Can Cameron turn things around and consistently hit? Has Reyes actually become a good hitter? Is Derek Hill more than just a defensive sub? Can Meadows find his power again? Need to answer these questions with a lot of playing time. I'm glad Robbie has a couple dingers finally, just for his mental health, but he still is more of a roadblock right now. I want to see Reyes every day. I think he's actually good. Edited June 19, 2022 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, buddha said: youre the one who said that if the organization cared about the fans they would dfa him, right? lol. Robbie was on the trajectory to DFA City. I'm happy that he appears to have course corrected, but he was pretty lifeless until this weekend. Edited June 19, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Reyes is not good...he doesn't walk and doesn't have power. Eventually he'll stop making contact. He might be a good depth piece. But if he plays everyday, he will regress to career norms or worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Hill, Cameron and Reyes will all slot below Baddoo as Akil pulls himself together. Then the correct OF would be Grossman, Greene, Baddoo, and Meadows. The rest of them all get the chance to OPS 900 at Toledo to force another look. The obvious plan when they signed Meadows had to be that they would move Grossman sometime before the deadline, but he has played himself right out of the possibility of getting any return, not that much could have been expected, but whatever was, it will be less. Assuming they do move or release Grossman sometime after Meadows returns one of Hill, Cameron or Reyes gets the 4th OF spot. Basically right where they were at the beginning of April but Meadows replaces Grossman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Hill, Cameron and Reyes will all slot below Baddoo as Akil pulls himself together. Then the correct OF would be Grossman, Greene, Baddoo, and Meadows. The rest of them all get the chance to OPS 900 at Toledo to force another look. The obvious plan when they signed Meadows had to be that they would move Grossman sometime before the deadline, but he has played himself right out of the possibility of getting any return, not that much could have been expected, but whatever was, it will be less. Assuming they do move or release Grossman sometime after Meadows returns one of Hill, Cameron or Reyes gets the 4th OF spot. Basically right where they were at the beginning of April but Meadows replaces Grossman. Where does all of this leave Willi? He's almost exclusively been an outfielder this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Where does all of this leave Willi? He's almost exclusively been an outfielder this year. Good question. I think his IF days are over, but the only way I see him holding a spot is if Baddoo falters - which he may but he's gaining momentum fast, or Meadows comes down with some additional plague. Truth is Willi has only looked adequate as a hitter by comparison with the futility of the rest of the lineup. His June OPS is still under 700. 2 HR in 160 AB and 3% walk rate. Edited June 20, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Good question. I think his IF days are over, but the only way I see him holding a spot is if Baddoo falters - which he may but he's gaining momentum fast, or Meadows comes down with some additional plague. Truth is Willi has only looked adequate as a hitter by comparison with the futility of the rest of the lineup. His June OPS is still under 700. 2 HR in 160 AB and 3% walk rate. Yes, Willi isn't a good enough hitter to play the outfield, especially the way that he plays it. He is a .620 OPS guy, marginally higher at the moment, and that mysterious interlude of 2019 - 2020 where he could actually hit is disappearing quickly in the rear view mirror. You can't have a .620 guy in the outfield unless he is Gary Pettis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Yes, Willi isn't a good enough hitter to play the outfield, especially the way that he plays it. He is a .620 OPS guy, marginally higher at the moment, and that mysterious interlude of 2019 - 2020 where he could actually hit is disappearing quickly in the rear view mirror. You can't have a .620 guy in the outfield unless he is Gary Pettis. So that works for Hill, Cameron, or Reyes... and we hope 1 of them can do a lot better than that... But there are reasons it would work for those guys and not Willi. I'm on board with the dump Grossman contingent. He's outlived his usefulness to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 20 hours ago, kdog said: Reyes is not good...he doesn't walk and doesn't have power. Eventually he'll stop making contact. He might be a good depth piece. But if he plays everyday, he will regress to career norms or worse. This is the year he finally hits for power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I'm on board with the dump Grossman contingent. He's outlived his usefulness to me. They probably need to see if he can keep this hot streak going so as to increase his value on trade. Example below of how he may have value if he's playing a little better: Edited June 20, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mtutiger said: They probably need to see if he can keep this hot streak going so as to increase his value on trade. Example below of how he may have value if he's playing a little better: Coincidentally enough I just saw a tweet from Beck that the Dodgers are indeed close to acquiring an OF from the Tigers but not Grossman, instead former Dodger and brother of Klay in Trayce Thompson who the Tigers have been playing in Toledo. I haven't been paying attention but apparently he has been pretty solid hitting .299 with 9 bombs in only 25 games. Edited June 20, 2022 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Coincidentally enough I just saw a tweet from Beck that the Dodgers are indeed close to acquiring an OF from the Tigers but not Grossman, instead former Dodger and brother of Klay in Trayce Thompson who the Tigers have been playing in Toledo. I haven't been paying attention but apparently he has been pretty solid hitting .299 with 9 bombs in only 25 games. Hmmm.... Is this one of those cases where if the Dodgers want him we don't want to be trading him? Edited June 20, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Hmmm.... Is this one of those cases where if the Dodgers want him we don't want to be trading him? He's 31 years old. It's not like he's the future of the Tigers... Dodgers want him/ they can have him/ what do we get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Done deal. Would imagine for cash considerations. Can’t see anything of value coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Done deal. Would imagine for cash considerations. Can’t see anything of value coming back. Can Cash Considerations hit? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, mtutiger said: ... Cash Considerations... ? ... becomes our #1 Position Player Prospect after Greene gets enough time in MLB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I was looking at Trayce Thompson's career a couple of days ago and for most of the time since 2012 he was pretty useless, but then at age 28 started to hit a little bit with some power. That was 2019, didn't play 2020, and continued his sudden transformation in 2021 and 2022. I don't understand why the Tigers acquired him, he was never going to get a callup and the team had plenty of AAA outfielders already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Possibly insurance purposes in case Meadows hit more snags. From what I've read, it's likely he had an opt out clause if he wasn't promoted within a certain time frame. At least they got something for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: Can Cash Considerations hit? lol Cash considerations are nice, but I prefer cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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