2022 NBA Draft Night

[TP_Fan]

Weaver turned the grant trade into a lottery pick.  Amazing. 

[1984Echoes]

It's looking like a 3-way trade with Detroit getting Duren & Walker (who's a lot less expensive then Hayward); and we send the 2025 Milwaukee 1st pick to Charlotte. Not certain what else between Knicks & Hornets...

So Jerami Grant for 2nd's and Kemba Walker at 1 year $9 Mill and Jalen Duren at # 13.

Yeah, I'm good with that.

[Hart]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

not bad. So now we have a fun team, but like Del says, somebody still has to put the ball in the hoop.

I don't know why people assume Ivey's not going to be able to shoot it in the NBA.  He's not Mathurin or Murray but he is far better than Killian Hayes.  I would be surprised if he is not a respectable shooter, at least by his second season.  

[RandyMarsh]

1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said:

It's looking like a 3-way trade with Detroit getting Duren & Walker (who's a lot less expensive then Hayward); and we send the 2025 Milwaukee 1st pick to Charlotte. Not certain what else between Knicks & Hornets...

So Jerami Grant for 2nd's and Kemba Walker at 1 year $9 Mill and Jalen Duren at # 13.

Yeah, I'm good with that.

I didn't realize Kemba is only owed 9, I just assumed he was making close to Hayward so that's a bonus.

[1984Echoes]

8 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

We gave a pick for taking on Walker?  You have to be kidding.

What a complete and total misrepresentation.

Seriously?

Wanna try again?

[NYLion]

8 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

So we essentially traded Grant for Duren, a 2nd round pick swap and another 2nd rounder. 

Yep. Well, Walker's salary included but, yeah, the trade looks nicer when you look at it that way. They got two 2nds btw, they're own 2nd in 2025 and the better of the Portland/New Orleans 2nds in 2026 so Duren (#13), Walker salary dump and two 2nds, plus move up 10 spots in the 2nd for Grant.

[1984Echoes]

3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I didn't realize Kemba is only owed 9, I just assumed he was making close to Hayward so that's a bonus.

Yeah, definitely better than Hayward's 2 years at $30 Mill per...

[Hart]

You wonder if this opens the door for Miles Bridges to be our main target now.  Not really a guy I am excited about but I think the hole on this team now is a replacement for Grant that has some perimeter game. 

[Betrayer]

15 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

You cant take Duren when you just picked a guard that cant shoot.  The Pistons are about to put 4 guys on the floor that cant shoot >30% from three.  

Except that Ivey shot 36% from three last year and according to Vecenie the year before when he shot poorly was the anomaly since he shot well from three in high school also (40 percent in his final three years). 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Hart said:

I am excited about Duren but if we are running Duren and Stewart out there together like we used to Drummond/Monroe, I will be pissed.  

Hayes and Duren probably the 2nd unit - at least until Duren gets a little experience?

[1984Echoes]

The upside is does this close the door on DeAndre Ayton...?

[Edman85]

Ivey can shoot.

His decision making and defense leave a lot to be desired.

The best two Purdue guards in recent history are on the Pistons though.

[Deleterious]

1 minute ago, Betrayer said:

Except that Ivey shot 36% from three last year and according to Vecenie the year before when he shot poorly was the anomaly since he shot well from three in high school also (40 percent in his final three years). 

Stanley Johnson shot 40% from three in college. 

Ivey did it against cupcakes.  In Big Ten play he shot below 30% from three.

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, Betrayer said:

Except that Ivey shot 36% from three last year and according to Vecenie the year before when he shot poorly was the anomaly since he shot well from three in high school also (40 percent in his final three years). 

Add free throw shooting to the improvement wish list. Would like to see a top level guard shoot more than 74%.

[Hart]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Hayes and Duren probably the 2nd unit - at least until Duren gets a little experience?

That's what I am hoping for.  Duren and Olynyk should be a decent pairing off the bench.  I still think we need to go out and get a replacement for Grant.  

[Betrayer]

I don’t think it rules out Ayton. In fact maybe the opposite. They have to feel like they have their drafted young core now so it’s ok to go spend (or overspend) on a player to put around them. And who knows, maybe Phoenix wanted Stewart as part of the sign and trade. So that could be part of the motivation. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Could the Pistons land Miles Bridges? 

[Longgone]

19 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

So we essentially traded Grant for Duren, a 2nd round pick swap and another 2nd rounder. 

Two more 2nd rounders

[casimir]

16 minutes ago, Hart said:

I am excited about Duren but if we are running Duren and Stewart out there together like we used to Drummond/Monroe, I will be pissed.  

It’s ok.  Stewart will be on the bench in foul trouble.

[NYLion]

I see that the Pistons are only absorbing $9M from the Kemba contract. It gets even better. 

Apparently Weaver is going to buy him out so they'll still have pretty much all their cap space remaining. I don't know anybody can dislike this move.

[Hart]

3 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Stanley Johnson shot 40% from three in college. 

Ivey did it against cupcakes.  In Big Ten play he shot below 30% from three.

Purdue played some good teams in non conference that Ivey shot well against.  If anything, I would say that is a better reflection of his game than Big Ten basketball, which severely suppresses a players skills.  

[1984Echoes]

4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Could the Pistons land Miles Bridges? 

we'll be looking for some shooters so I see him as best fit, at least at this point...

[Deleterious]

2 minutes ago, Hart said:

Purdue played some good teams in non conference that Ivey shot well against.  If anything, I would say that is a better reflection of his game than Big Ten basketball, which severely suppresses a players skills.  

Well hopefully nobody in the NBA attempts to suppress his skills.

[Motor City Sonics]

The Pistons drafted a guy who was begging to come here.  I think that's good. 

[Hart]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Add free throw shooting to the improvement wish list. Would like to see a top level guard shoot more than 74%.

I don't expect him to be a top level guard on the offensive end.  I do think that is a stretch.  I am more excited about his defensive potential.  It's disappointing he wasn't a better defender in college but the NBA is all about projection and he certainly isn't lacking the ability to be an elite defender.  And with Bey and Cade as two of our starting wings, we really need that.  Then you add in a plus transition player and average an average shooter and you have a good fit for our third wing player.