romad1 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 25 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: And to think I was told on here that I would have zero impact. Let’s not go nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, chasfh said: It is true that when you listen to the debate versus watching it, Biden doesn't seem to do as poorly. someone mentioned Kennedy/Nixon. Supposedly people who listened on the radio though Nixon won the debate. On TV Nixon came across badly and they say it was the make-up. Could be, but I also tend to think it was just that when you watched Nixon you could always see in his eyes that he was a calculating liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I think there's legitimate concerns coming out of last night, but it gets exhausting watching guys like Wasserman, Astead Herndon with NYT, others in the national press who have *never* liked Biden even dating back to 2019/2020 act impartial about this stuff. They just are not. I would say not moving the needle isn't good even if it's the best case scenario here (Biden needed to use this debate to help gain on his current standing), but given the freakout from the pundit class, it would be kinda hilarious if their hysteria amounted to a hill of ****. Truly some of the most cloistered people in society. Edited June 28 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I think there's legitimate concerns coming out of last night, but it gets exhausting watching guys like Wasserman, Astead Herndon with NYT, others in the national press who have *never* liked Biden even dating back to 2019/2020 act impartial about this stuff. They just are not. I would say not moving the needle isn't good even if it's the best case scenario here (Biden needed to use this debate to help gain on his current standing), but given the freakout from the pundit class, it would be kinda hilarious if their hysteria amounted to a hill of ****. Truly some of the most cloistered people in society. I think not moving the needle was a good result because I always knew Biden was a bad debater and this would be his biggest weakness. It's no accident Biden set the debate so early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 The same New York Times who will not utter a word about Trump using "Palestinian" as a slur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 Prolly still crushed Biden didn't give them an interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Have they written their "To Serve His Country, Donald Trump Should Leave the Race" editorial yet? For the record at least? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 hours ago, chasfh said: It is true that when you listen to the debate versus watching it, Biden doesn't seem to do as poorly. Anything is better when you don't have to look at Trump's stupid face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just imagine if Biden also wore a tan suit during the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: someone mentioned Kennedy/Nixon. Supposedly people who listened on the radio though Nixon won the debate. On TV Nixon came across badly and they say it was the make-up. Could be, but I also tend to think it was just that when you watched Nixon you could always see in his eyes that he was a calculating liar. Nixon was recovering from a knee injury (slammed it with a limo door?) at the time of the debate. He re-injured it entering the TV station in Chicago. He also turned down makeup offered by producer Don Hewitt (later of 60 Minutes fame). The lack of makeup combined with a five o'clock shadow looked bad compared to Kennedy whose preparation for the debate included tanning while on the trail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Nixon was recovering from a knee injury (slammed it with a limo door?) at the time of the debate. He re-injured it entering the TV station in Chicago. He also turned down makeup offered by producer Don Hewitt (later of 60 Minutes fame). The lack of makeup combined with a five o'clock shadow looked bad compared to Kennedy whose preparation for the debate included tanning while on the trail. he was still always shifty.....🦃 Edited June 29 by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: The same New York Times who will not utter a word about Trump using "Palestinian" as a slur. Hey NYT, should Trump serve his country by dropping out for being found guilty of 34 felony counts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 17 minutes ago, chasfh said: Hey NYT, should Trump serve his country by dropping out for being found guilty of 34 felony counts? The only thing that Trump needs to serve is his time. Edited June 29 by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrat Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I would literally vote for a dead person before I would ever vote for fat Hitler. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, antrat said: I would literally vote for a dead person before I would ever vote for fat Hitler. There is a non-zero chance you may have that opportunity in 130ish days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 8 minutes ago, antrat said: I would literally vote for a dead person before I would ever vote for fat Hitler. I like compare him to Mussolini. Il Douche 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Trump is more likely to die before Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 8 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Are you voting for Biden? Have you looked at my avatar. I'd say that answers it. Would I prefer someone else, yes. I've wanted a competitive primary process all along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Hey NYT, should Trump serve his country by dropping out for being found guilty of 34 felony counts? I hate to pick on the NYT because it went beyond them, but if we are sitting here two weeks from now and it's status quo or close to status quo in this Presidential race, given how far out over their skis they got.... like, how do you walk that back? They aren't going to let up, but jeez, it would make them look a lot more irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 4 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I hate to pick on the NYT because it went beyond them, but if we are sitting here two weeks from now and it's status quo or close to status quo in this Presidential race, given how far out over their skis they got.... like, how do you walk that back? They aren't going to let up, but jeez, it would make them look a lot more irrelevant. The Times are in the typical ideologue trap of preferring to lose than to admit they are wrong about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Have you looked at my avatar. I'd say that answers it. Would I prefer someone else, yes. I've wanted a competitive primary process all along. Good. Then put your effort into telling others why they should vote for Biden instead of fantasies about your token senator becoming the nominee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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