romad1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Hang this around their necks too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 30 minutes ago, 1776 said: Kamala lacks substance. Then she fits right in with the other candidates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I thought it was hilarious that Rubio was supposedly one of the finalists. He probably thought he had a shot too. What a sucker. Trumps loves to humiliate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: 538 has Biden as the favorite, so I'm not sure where this certainly the favorite to win comes from. Whether you're more a fan of 538 or Nate's aggregator, the idea is that Trump is still in a band between 48ish-75%. Which last I checked, isn't 99%. Yet his campaign is acting like it's 99%. Reminds me of the old Fritz Hollings quote: "There's only two ways to run for public office: one is unopposed, the other is scared." I think he's favored to win at this point, but his campaign is running a little overconfident right now IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, 1776 said: I’ve been very impressed at how Kamala was able to navigate such a difficult assignment. 😉 A bit easier when people aren't trying to hang you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Whether you're more a fan of 538 or Nate's aggregator, the idea is that Trump is still in a band between 48ish-75%. Which last I checked, isn't 99%. Yet his campaign is acting like it's 99%. Reminds me of the old Fritz Hollings quote: "There's only two ways to run for public office: one is unopposed, the other is scared." I think he's favored to win at this point, but his campaign is running a little overconfident right now IMO About a month ago. I thought it was 50/50. Right now, it certainly seems like Trump is the favorite and I don't think the problems surrounded Biden are going away. It's never over when you've got a loose cannon like Trump as one of the candidates, but I am not optimistic at the moment. I think it's more like 65/35 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 7 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Whether you're more a fan of 538 or Nate's aggregator, the idea is that Trump is still in a band between 48ish-75%. Which last I checked, isn't 99%. Yet his campaign is acting like it's 99%. Reminds me of the old Fritz Hollings quote: "There's only two ways to run for public office: one is unopposed, the other is scared." I think he's favored to win at this point, but his campaign is running a little overconfident right now IMO They are ALWAYS over confident. Even when they lose, they still think they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 38 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Another way to think about this: Trump picked Pence in 2016 at a time when his support with evangelical voters was shaky at best. Which was a demographic that he absolutely needed in order to win. One case where it probably did help picking one particular candidate over another. Trump's pick of Vance here will bring no one in that wasn't already in the tent when the day started. He's certainly the favorite to win the election, but not so much so according to the aggregators that he shouldn't have interest in trying to make appeals *beyond* the base. Maybe I'm wrong, but this signals to me that he doesn't think he needs to do that. Which reeks of some overconfidence. I believe their thought is his Midwest Hillbilly background can help them in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. They probably win the election if they can sweep these states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I believe their thought is his Midwest Hillbilly background can help them in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. They probably win the election if they can sweep these states. Could be, although Biden's issue in polling has been more about the cities and suburbs in each of these states (and concerns about turnout), and Vance (just looking at his political record) doesn't add anything for these people IMO Turnout wise in rural areas, I have a hard time seeing it juice turnout more than Donald Trump already does. Edited July 15 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 One of the focus group gurus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 26 minutes ago, pfife said: A bit easier when people aren't trying to hang you. Literally? I must have missed the news about an attempted hanging. Details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, 1776 said: Literally? I must have missed the news about an attempted hanging. Details? Honest question: Are you a Jan6th denier? Do you recall a scaffold erected with chants of “hang Mike Pence”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, 1776 said: Literally? I must have missed the news about an attempted hanging. Details? They literally erected gallows and broke into the capitol where Mike Pence was chanting hang Mike Pence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 15 minutes ago, romad1 said: Ol’ Tim got suckered big time. Just another brick in the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 24 minutes ago, 1776 said: Literally? I must have missed the news about an attempted hanging. Details? I am referring to the 1/6 Mike Pence stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, pfife said: I am referring to the 1/6 Mike Pence stuff. Thank you. I didn’t make the connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 I think Kamala Harris would be a good president. She seems to be a quite accomplished person, I don't think she lacks substance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 Just now, 1776 said: Thank you. I didn’t make the connection. I meant that Trumps VP specifically was dangerous. Slight sarcasm. Only slight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Whatever one's feelings about Rachel Maddow, Alex Jones isn't a reputable source on anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, mtutiger said: Whatever one's feelings about Rachel Maddow, Alex Jones isn't a reputable source on anything Yikes.😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 So, if JD Vance is organizing all the Project 2025 stuff...who is the puppet here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 I'm struggling to see the value of dj Vince on the ticket. Does he make the coalition bigger or inspire anyone who wasn't going to vote for Slump anyways? Is it his money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, romad1 said: So, if JD Vance is organizing all the Project 2025 stuff...who is the puppet here? Good observation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Yes, what’s good for the goose and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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