Tiger337 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 9 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Accidental death and death by infections from wounds probably kept male life expectancy down before workplace safety progress began in the 20th Cent and antibiotics arrived. Smoking was also a factor in the difference for my parents generation. Prior to WWII, smoking was more common in men than women and by the 80's lung cancer prevalence in men peaked at more than twice the rate for women. Since then smoking has dropped for men so to gap in lung cancer deaths between men and women has closed a lot. https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/lung-cancer-trends-brief/data-tables/lung-cancer-deaths-and-rates-by-race-sex-and-year This is an intresting topic to me because every year I show my students how to make a life expectancy chart in Stata from 1900 forward and then have them discuss the results. One notable pattern is that the gap between women and men has increased since the 1940s. One theory is that women are taking care of themselves better - better diets, fewer risk behaviors and regular doctor appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: This is an intresting topic to me because every year I show my students how to make a life expectancy chart in Stata from 1900 forward and then have them discuss the results. One notable pattern is that the gap between women and men has increased since the 1940s. One theory is that women are taking care of themselves better - better diets, fewer risk behaviors and regular doctor appointments. smoking is probably a big piece as it contributes more than just the lung cancer deaths to the gender disparity - it also drives COPD/emphasyma and cardio vascular disease. Men who won't go to the doctor until it's too late - esp older men, would be an interesting one to have data on. We all know cases of that anecdotally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 This is a great thread by Greg Sargent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 3 hours ago, romad1 said: This is a great thread by Greg Sargent Is a more sophisticated way of saying what most of us here have already understood: you aren't changing many conservative minds. For too many conservatives too much of their personal identity is tied up in being anti-dem. They literally do not have the imagination to envision life on the 'other side'. (as an aside, maybe more capability for imagination is why many who did make the jump to anti-Trumper were the more creative types like the guys in the Lincoln project.) So the battle has to be fought for the non-political middle. You do that by being as reasonable/acceptable/mainstream as possible. And you have to drive your base. One thing I haven't seem as much commentary about that I thought was significant is that while there is always some, this convention has to hold some kind of record for numbers and intensity of calls for the volunteer participation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 4 hours ago, romad1 said: This is a great thread by Greg Sargent Evergreen post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 (edited) The incomparable Tina Brown in the NYT: https://archive.ph/2024.08.24-145757/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/opinion/tim-walz-son-gus.html My Son and Gus Walz Deserve a Champion Like Tim Walz Edited August 24 by pfife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrat Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I'm getting so drunk on election night. I'll be as nervous as a big boobed porn star on a date with mushroom ****. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Are you f’n kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Maybe RFK jr is their Sarah Palin and their Thomas Eagleston at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Ronz Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 22 minutes ago, pfife said: And he's normal compared to RFK Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 You guys are just mad because you couldn’t go falconing with him this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, antrat said: I'm getting so drunk on election night. I'll be as nervous as a big boobed porn star on a date with mushroom ****. Save that drunken night for, at least, the day in January that the election is certified… or, truly, better save it for the day they move in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 I think Oblong mentioned this when JV Dance was in MI, how it was weird that they were in front of the police station..... I thought it was wild too... https://www.metrotimes.com/news/michigan-bureau-of-elections-to-investigate-trump-campaign-event-following-complaints-37137767 Michigan Bureau of Elections to investigate Trump campaign event following complaints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 cc: Peggy Noonan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 It's getting to the point where they can only use music in the public domain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 hours ago, pfife said: I think Oblong mentioned this when JV Dance was in MI, how it was weird that they were in front of the police station..... I thought it was wild too... https://www.metrotimes.com/news/michigan-bureau-of-elections-to-investigate-trump-campaign-event-following-complaints-37137767 Michigan Bureau of Elections to investigate Trump campaign event following complaints Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: dumb people are being made all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: You guys are just mad because you couldn’t go falconing with him this weekend. Fact check: true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: It's getting to the point where they can only use music in the public domain. They used Foo fighters (Hero) (wtf?!?!) for RFK Jr the other day and I gotta think that's not gonna fly with Grohl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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