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2 hours ago, pfife said:

I hope Vice President Kamala Harris crushes these sick ****s.

https://www.newsweek.com/kroger-executive-admits-company-gouged-prices-above-inflation-1945742

Kroger Executive Admits Company Gouged Prices Above Inflation

A top company leader at Kroger has admitted during an antitrust trial the company gouged prices on select items above inflation levels.

We are always told that companies have nothing to do with inflation, but of course they do.  Once prices start inflating and consumers willingly pay the prices, they are naturally going to jack some of them up more to see how far consumers will go.  

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1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

We are always told that companies have nothing to do with inflation, but of course they do.  Once prices start inflating and consumers willingly pay the prices, they are naturally going to jack some of them up more to see how far consumers will go.  

The problem with something the Kroger FTC hearing is that it's asking the wrong question. At a fundamental level, every price in the economy is "as far as consumers will go". If you are in business and are charging less than your customers will pay your are either an altruist or a fool, but neither of those will ever build a functioning economy. The real question is how bad does a price location need to be before it's in the public interest for the government to take a role? I would argue that inflated egg prices for a few months doesn't come close to rising to that level of importance, and any 'cure' would be far worse in the long run that the impact of what happened with eggs, i.e., bureaucratic costs plus unforeseen dislocations as business learned avoidance behaviors etc. This is just political pandering based on the general economic ignorance of the population and a chance to score political points at the expense of a corporation most people already don't like. 

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25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

This is just political pandering based on the general economic ignorance of the population and a chance to score political points at the expense of a corporation most people already don't like. 

One second thought though - to be fair there is nothing wrong with trying to shame people into more socially responsible behavior, that's actually not a bad role for the gov, and if it works a little it is a better long term outcome than more market regulation would be in places where it's not really a good idea.

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35 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Did he just confess again?

 

It's hard to know if he just has an animal instinct for or if he actually works out his rhetoric but this is an example of something Trump does which is quite clever - he hides an invalid premise/assumption behind a question that has a more reasonable answer. No, no-one has ever heard of being indicted for interfering with an election - but the false premise at work here which is implicit is that you've never heard of it because it has happened but no-one has been indicted, when of course the truth is you haven't heard of it not because someone shouldn't be indicted but because it simply never happened before. So the outrageous get glossed in what appears to be a reasonable compliant.

This technique is one way he is able to appear to normalize things which should never pass for normal.

And, really, I don't think it's any conscious intellectual effort. I imagine is just another reflection of his narcissism and the projection that entails. Since he projects all his behaviors on others, the idea that he is unique in trying to upset an election doesn't occur to him, thus it's normal and thus to him it appears he must be being singled out for prosecution.

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25 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

He’s really good at this

 

Not only the rhetoric, but just that he can speak about real life in ways Trump just doesn't have any experience about and Vance has lost any remembrance of. Another one the other day was someone put up a clip of Harris in a kitchen and she cracked an egg into the mixing bowl with one hand. How can middle American not love a pol who can also crack an egg one-handed?

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22 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Not only the rhetoric, but just that he can speak about real life in ways Trump just doesn't have any experience about and Vance has lost any remembrance of. Another one the other day was someone put up a clip of Harris in a kitchen and she cracked an egg into the mixing bowl with one hand. How can middle American not love a pol who can also crack an egg one-handed?

Or talk about making breakfast for her nieces on a Sunday morning when the President calls

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57 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

What are you talking about.  She seems completely sane to me.   She seems clear-headed and true.   

YOU'RE the one who's daft...............

 

Oh, wait...........DEFT...........never mind.   

 

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Donald Trump Volunteer Dropped After New Hampshire Email - Newsweek

It appears there was something to the New Hampshire story. 

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In an email, which was obtained by the Globe, Tom Mountain, a Massachusetts volunteer for the Trump campaign, wrote to other Trump volunteers in the state that "the campaign has determined that New Hampshire is no longer a battleground state," and instead directed supporters to focus on Pennsylvania, another battleground state.

Mountain continued in his email by stating that Trump was "sure to lose by an even higher margin" in New Hampshire than in 2016 and 2020, citing "campaign data/research."

As a result of this data realism he is being fired by the Fantasists in Chief 

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9 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Donald Trump Volunteer Dropped After New Hampshire Email - Newsweek

It appears there was something to the New Hampshire story. 

As a result of this data realism he is being fired by the Fantasists in Chief 

I hope this means that they're going to double down on New Hampshire, and while they're in the area, they should goes balls out in Vermont and Massachusetts, too.

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16 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I hope this means that they're going to double down on New Hampshire, and while they're in the area, they should goes balls out in Vermont and Massachusetts, too.

got to show how strong you are!  

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