mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: 1st amendment rights not withstanding, there has to be some legal remedy in any society against a pathological public liar like Trump. Without some kind of reform of US libel law to give people recourse against internet amplified public calumny like this the republic is doomed. What makes it worse now is that he's now 78 years old... It only gets worse from here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Well, as someone who braved the agony of bone spurs, he knows his combat injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 42 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I know we are numb to it all, but this a vile thing to say. Vile. and WTF is he talking about "make a deal within a week after the election" - In 10 seconds he had already lost the thread that this happened on his watch? Edited October 2 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 This debate is boring…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Is Vance really saying not to trust experts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Is Vance really saying not to trust experts? that's his expert opinion I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 36 minutes ago, oblong said: This debate is boring…. I was playing NCAA 25 and MLB the Show because I had OD'd on drama after the Lions and Tigers games. Now i'm watching. Meh...this won't change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) JD was conceived in a lab to appeal to DC pundits, so he's getting plaudits there. My issue is that he comes across too shifty, kinda like Ellis in Die Hard. Edited October 2 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 Walz is much stronger on domestic issues. Vance creates ways to blame everything on Vice President Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, pfife said: Walz is much stronger on domestic issues. Vance creates ways to blame everything on Vice President Harris. And illegals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 17 minutes ago, pfife said: Walz is much stronger on domestic issues. Vance creates ways to blame everything on Vice President Harris. I do feel Walz is agreeing to much with Vance. I thought he had a missed opportunity on gun safety reforms to hammer home the difference. Walz's best answer has been on healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 This is like the 2020 VP debate. Vance can complete sentences and stay disciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 The Jan 6th response from JD was awful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 Walz killed him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 12 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I do feel Walz is agreeing to much with Vance. I thought he had a missed opportunity on gun safety reforms to hammer home the difference. Walz's best answer has been on healthcare. My hope is the agreeing thing works for people who arent as combative about politics as me. But i agree about the agreeing. His new best answer was J6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 The Mike Pence line was just brutal... Brutal. I wish it wasn't hidden in the back of the proceedings, but these debates are about viral moments and that was a good one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Best line of the night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Just now, mtutiger said: The Mike Pence line was just brutal... Brutal. I wish it wasn't hidden in the back of the proceedings, but these debates are about viral moments and that was a good one Should be on all the morning news shows. Ranks up there with the "You're no John Kennedy" to Dan Quayle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 40 minutes ago, mtutiger said: JD was conceived in a lab to appeal to DC pundits, so he's getting plaudits there. My issue is that he comes across too shifty, kinda like Ellis in Die Hard. My wife laughed hard and then bugged me with a bunch of Die Hard quotes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 12 minutes ago, pfife said: Walz killed him there. “And that’s why Mike Pence isn’t here tonight”, or something to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I don't believe there are undecided voters. They just want attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I do think with the surprising civility here, Vance helped himself tonight, if not helped Trump. He might be angling for 2028. He’ll lose the red hats if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 13 minutes ago, pfife said: My hope is the agreeing thing works for people who arent as combative about politics as me. But i agree about the agreeing. His new best answer was J6. Oh yeah, Walz crushed it on J6. I jumped out of my seat and screamed with joy when he said there's a reason Mike Pence isn't on the stage tonight. That was a ****ing touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 14 minutes ago, romad1 said: My wife laughed hard and then bugged me with a bunch of Die Hard quotes. The resemblance to the type is just uncanny when you notice it.... and we know all those types. Again, I think the pundits are going to give JD flowers tonight, and understand why... after all, these are the folks who couldn't see the forest through the trees in the John Fetterman-Dr. Oz debate! But objectively, there's a grain of inauthenticity that he gives off. It's a lot of the stuff that JD's supporters accuse Kamala Harris of, even (it makes sense that they are both lawyers by trade). Voters tend to like authenticity more, so it's possible that it looks more like a draw to viewers. Ultimately the debate won't matter much if at all though.... and he didn't look great in some of the bigger inflection moments of the debate (mike cut-off, January 6th) Edited October 2 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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