2024 Presidential Election thread

[Motown Bombers]

How do the networks even find these undecided people? I want to pretend to be undecided so I can be on one of these panels. As a middle aged white male from Macomb County Michigan, the networks should be fighting to have me on their panel. I’m concerned about Haitians and transgender even though I don’t think I’ve ever crossed paths with either. I’m also very concerned with a border 2,000 miles away. 

[mtutiger]

Don't think it's the most important thing, but the tonal difference between what occurred last night and what occurs with literally any debate Donald Trump is involved in is notable.

[gehringer_2]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:09 PM, Motown Bombers said:

How do the networks even find these undecided people? I want to pretend to be undecided so I can be on one of these panels. 

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This. There are a lot of people who just want to get on the TeeVee. What's an easier con than to tell a network canvasser that you are undecided. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Hongbit]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:09 PM, Motown Bombers said:

How do the networks even find these undecided people? 

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They look for purple hair and random face piercings.

[CMRivdogs]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:09 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 I’m also very concerned with a border 2,000 miles away. 

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But you really need to be very concerned about those sneaky Canadians.

[CMRivdogs]

I would have fact checked Vance on Trump saving Obamacare. It was John McCain. That fact would really make Trumpublicans heads explode

[Motown Bombers]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:47 PM, CMRivdogs said:

But you really need to be very concerned about those sneaky Canadians.

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I mean, Detroit is the most dangerous border city in the country. 

[CMRivdogs]

Dropped my ballot off at the county voting center today. I don't trust Lovejoy's (a Trump appointee) Postal Service. Especially since Richmond has been rated one of the worst regions for mail delivery thanks to changes in the sorting system. They admit letting some mail set for extended lengths of time.

But what I was really struck by was the parties poll workers outside the building. The Democrats had two very friendly little old ladies. The Party of Benedict Trump had two older gentlemen who looked like they'd rather be at the local McDonalds arguing about the Commanders,  

[Motown Bombers]

This is a right wing pollster. This, along with the Seltzer Iowa poll and NE-2 polling, shows she’s running ahead of Biden amongst white midwesterners. 

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by Motown Bombers

[Motown Bombers]

This is the republican senate candidate in Minnesota. 

 

[CMRivdogs]

Should be part of the Trump rally playlist. Bob Dylan might actually approve.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:49 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I would have fact checked Vance on Trump saving Obamacare. It was John McCain. That fact would really make Trumpublicans heads explode

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I was yelling loudly at the TV when Vance said that BS. I was screaming to Walz that he better hit back at that nonsense and he did.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:52 PM, Motown Bombers said:

I mean, Detroit is the most dangerous border city in the country. 

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We do eat dogs around here too, coney dogs anyways.

[CMRivdogs]

The latest from JVL. Vance changes personas more often than Trump changes diapers (my words)

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Last night JD Vance, late of cat-lady and pet-eating fame, slid into a normie skinsuit.

It worked great. Vance was charming and deft. He won nearly every interaction, owned nearly every question. He parried and pivoted with the skill of a Clinton.

This was the fourth version of JD Vance to appear in public life.

Vance 1.0 was a memoirist and Hillbilly whisperer.

Vance 2.0 was a Never Trump pundit.

Vance 3.0 was a MAGA edgelord.

Vance 4.0 is something like a cross between 2010 Elizabeth Warren and 2016 Marco Rubio, with some light nativism sprinkled in.

A reminder: Vance just turned 40. Even Sohrab Ahmari must be impressed with the pace of the JDos update cycle.

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https://www.thebulwark.com/p/jd-vance-40-is-here?utm_source=substack&publication_id=87281&post_id=149705907&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true

[Tigermojo]

  On 10/2/2024 at 2:47 PM, CMRivdogs said:

But you really need to be very concerned about those sneaky Canadians.

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I live in a Canadian asylum but I will be coming to a town near you. I want to get into one of those fancy American asylums.

[CMRivdogs]

  On 10/2/2024 at 5:45 PM, Tigermojo said:

I live in a Canadian asylum but I will be coming to a town near you. I want to get into one of those fancy American asylums.

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I have one a few miles from me. The former home of John Hinkley. Last I checked he was an American. No word of Haitians living there.

[chasfh]

  On 10/2/2024 at 1:56 PM, Motown Bombers said:

Even pitchbot can’t top this stuff anymore. 

 

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Give it up, NYT. Conservatives will never love you. They remember what side you were on during Civil Rights and Jim Crow and they will never forgive you for it.

[romad1]

well, this is interesting

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-2020-election-filing-special-counsel-jack-smith/

 

[romad1]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-jack-smith-election-supreme-court-0b9969b480036bb1f7c61a73980d406c

We may have our October Surprise.

[romad1]

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Bombshell special counsel filing includes new allegations of Trump's 'increasingly desperate' efforts to overturn election

Trump privately described claims of voter fraud as "crazy," the filing says.

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oh well...sorry about all that stuff at the Capitol.

[smr-nj]

JD is a worm.  How much shame is too much to internalize? Guess he’s not in that territory. (None of them seem to be)

[gehringer_2]

  On 10/2/2024 at 7:19 PM, chasfh said:

Give it up, NYT. Conservatives will never love you. They remember what side you were on during Civil Rights and Jim Crow and they will never forgive you for it.

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Liberal MSM newspapers really are in a bind because the young are always the future of liberalism, but Newspapers, even the online versions, don't really resonate to any of the cohorts behind the boomers. So the business management side - in this case even old money ownership like Sulzberger, is trying to triangulate to a wider political spectrum. But I don't see how it can help them. 1st because any conservative readers they pick up will be as old or older than the readership that is already too old, and 2nd because sympathy to today's conservative movement is simply incompatible to any organization that thinks its mandate is honest journalism (read as: reporting on the world truthfully).