2024 Presidential Election thread

[microline133]

59 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I haven't seen much coverage of FEMA response to Helene from up here. Could it be that they're seeing help on the ground that those outside of NC are not?

Not directed at you individually, so please don't take this as such....

 

There is tons of help on the ground in NC....and in VA, and in TN, and in SC, and in GA, and in FL. Any assertion otherwise is complete and total BS. I haven't seen my family in three weeks because I'm on the ground providing support. I know.

[Motor City Sonics]

14 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

I’m sorry for your medical issues, but for sure hope that your future medical costs will come under a Democratic administration.  
I know that my sister & her husband will benefit from the pharmaceutical cap that happens next year for meds they need to survive.

Republican Logic these days:

if they need expensive meds to survive, they should have become millionaires.   Why didn't they just take the millions from your parents and use that?    Why didn't they just become millionaires?    That's their fault !

[mtutiger]

8 minutes ago, microline133 said:

Not directed at you individually, so please don't take this as such....

 

There is tons of help on the ground in NC....and in VA, and in TN, and in SC, and in GA, and in FL. Any assertion otherwise is complete and total BS. I haven't seen my family in three weeks because I'm on the ground providing support. I know.

I wouldn't be surprised if the flood of misinformation was not as well received in North Carolina as people were assuming at the time.

We give the actors who push this sort of misinformation a lot of power when we automatically assume that everything they do is effective 

[CMRivdogs]

27 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Quick switch from housing cost to health care. Personal note, I was diagnosed with ILD (Interstitial Lung Disease) about three years ago. Was told eventually I would probably require a transplant. The doctor also prescribed a drug that run over $15,000 a month without insurance. With Medicare and additional insurance it still was running nearly $700 once I hit maximum deductions. Back in January the out of pocket price dropped to $O.

if I need a transplant pre insurance costs would run a $ or more. Fortunately Medicare and private insurance would probably lower out of pocket costs to housing (6 months to a year)

I doubt that would be happening under Trump and Republicans

Yes, I voted my pocketbook 

I should add. Yesterday's visit to Duke was good. Everything is basically stable which is all I can ask for. I'm not on O2, exercising as prescribed 2-3 times a week and my doctors are happy. If anything they are concerned I may have lost too much weight in recent months. 

It was also a good chat with the head of the transplant team which put things into better perspective.

To quote Monty Python "I'm not dead yet"

[CMRivdogs]

https://x.com/joycewhitevance/status/1852483051718115802?s=61&t=akgNyUltuSb7RN54lulxTw

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by CMRivdogs

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

People want to entrust the economy in the hands of a guy who inherited 400 million, filed 6 bankruptcies, and failed at every business he ever owned. 

A guy who bankrupted casinos no less. A guy who has stuffed multiple contractors and failed to pay up when he owes the bill too.

[CMRivdogs]

Interesting the dead bird app, like the truck Musk stol (invented) does not work properly when you attempt to post about his guy

You have to go around your butt for a work around

 

https://x.com/monacharen/status/1852441639446294953?s=61&t=akgNyUltuSb7RN54lulxTw
 

Edited 5 hours ago by CMRivdogs

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Interesting the dead bird app, like the truck Musk stol (invented) does not work properly when you attempt to post about his guy

You have to go around your butt for a work around

 

https://x.com/monacharen/status/1852441639446294953?s=61&t=akgNyUltuSb7RN54lulxTw
 

Definitely noticed it's hit or miss what tweets embed. 

[1776]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Not a fan of Reagan, but it was Limbaugh who created this vitriol.   He started us down this path,  Gingrich with his "Contract ON America”…

What of the following pieces of the Contract WITH America did you disagree with?

1. Require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
2. Select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
3. Cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
4. Limit the terms of all committee chairs;
5. Ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
6. Require committee meetings to be open to the public;
7. Require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
8. Guarantee an honest accounting of the federal budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

Major policy changes

edit

During the first one hundred days of the 104th Congress, the Republicans pledged "to bring to the floor the following [ten] bills, each to be given a full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote, and each to be immediately available for public inspection". The text of the proposed bills was included in the Contract, which was released prior to the election. These bills were not governmental operational reforms, as the previous promises were; rather, they represented significant changes to policy. They mainly included a balanced budget requirement, tax cuts for small businesses, families and seniors, term limits for legislators, social security reform, tort reform, and welfare reform.

[Motown Bombers]

[1776]

1 hour ago, microline133 said:

Not directed at you individually, so please don't take this as such....

 

There is tons of help on the ground in NC....and in VA, and in TN, and in SC, and in GA, and in FL. Any assertion otherwise is complete and total BS. I haven't seen my family in three weeks because I'm on the ground providing support. I know.

There was a ‘Concert for Carolina’ held about a week ago involving Luke Combs (Asheville native) and Eric Church (Hickory native) to raise money for the victims of the flooding in western N.C. It was reported that over $25 million was raised. Eric Church has committed to building 100 houses to assist in the building back effort. As a lifelong Tar Heel, I’m very proud of the local efforts to step up and get involved.

Homeboys

Edited 5 hours ago by 1776

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Peaceful internally and peaceful on the street might be two different things.

They are definitely different things. One involves the actual peaceful transfer of power, and the other actually doesn't. 

[Sports_Freak]

34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Definitely noticed it's hit or miss what tweets embed. 

Yeah, it hasn't worked good recently. I pointed that out in the Green Bay-Lions thread. An embedded link i posted disappeared. I saw others that disappeared too.

[chasfh]

I gotta admit, I admire the lack of bull****.

 

[LaceyLou]

1 hour ago, microline133 said:

Not directed at you individually, so please don't take this as such....

 

There is tons of help on the ground in NC....and in VA, and in TN, and in SC, and in GA, and in FL. Any assertion otherwise is complete and total BS. I haven't seen my family in three weeks because I'm on the ground providing support. I know.

Thank you for being there! 

 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

https://x.com/joycewhitevance/status/1852483051718115802?s=61&t=akgNyUltuSb7RN54lulxTw

 

 

Make perfect sense - for the three of them the value of a life is too low for them to be bothered by the execution of people in the face of exculpatory evidence, why would the value of correcting a vote mean anything to them at all?

Edited 4 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

A guy who bankrupted casinos no less. A guy who has stuffed multiple contractors and failed to pay up when he owes the bill too.

and who can't rally in Albuquerque because he still hasn't paid them from 2020!

[LaceyLou]

10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and who can't rally in Albuquerque because he still hasn't paid them from 2020!

I wonder if the Four Seasons got paid? 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, 1776 said:

 social security reform, tort reform, and welfare reform.

Any reasonable definition of the word 'reform' was about as far away from any GOP intent with respect to these programs as A is to Z.

The GOP was already beginning to embrace the big lie theory as political strategy. Protest as loud as you can that you are saving the patient no matter that while your mouth trumpets your virtue your hands are intent on strangling the patient.

Edited 4 hours ago by gehringer_2

[smr-nj]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

A guy who bankrupted casinos no less. A guy who has stuffed multiple contractors and failed to pay up when he owes the bill too.

My ex-brother in law was(maybe still is?) a commercial real estate agent in NYC.  He knew contractors that had worked on Trump projects in the city that were never paid.

And here in NJ, again with contractors doing work way back on his casino in Atlantic City… again, stiffed. 
When brought to court, his lawyers would delay delay delay (sound familiar?) and the contractor couldn’t financially afford to keep pursuing him for payment.

This is what he’s done to working people for DECADES. It’s the way he’s always “done business”.

He has always been a crook.  How can people justify all the entities over the years that he just doesn’t pay. 
Even during these elections, his campaigns continue to stiff venues, municipalities that spend for police protection, etc.

Why/How can you support this??? Especially if you’re someone who works hard for every penny… why would you be okay with someone who thinks you are a fool.

[gehringer_2]

26 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

You couldn't make it up. Just couldn't.

Edited 3 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Kacie]

59 minutes ago, chasfh said:

They are definitely different things. One involves the actual peaceful transfer of power, and the other actually doesn't. 

The House and Mike Johnson are my concern...Trying to get it to the courts.  Will they succeed in the long run?  Probably not.  But it just sets up another cycle of the "stolen" election and sowing doubt, inciting violence and more hate.  

[pfife]

4 hours ago, Edman85 said:

The Fed...

And Trump's promise to micromanage the Federal Reserve is one of the many alarming things he is pushing.

it's more than a promise, he did it in the past.  He pressured Powell to keep interest rates very low, to the point of still doing QE, while he was out there bragging about it being the greatest economy ever.   Extremely inflationary.

[Edman85]

Just now, pfife said:

it's more than a promise, he did it in the past.  He pressured Powell to keep interest rates very low, to the point of still doing QE, while he was out there bragging about it being the greatest economy ever.   Extremely inflationary.

Yep! Inflation would have taken off in 2020 if COVID didn't tamp it down.