2024 Presidential Election thread

[ben9753]

3 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think infrequent voters and not politically engaged voters see "Trump" and think, hey that's the super successful guy from the apprentice, I wonder what he's been up to? I guess I'll vote for him.

There's very very few such people in 2024. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Over the years I've kept tabs on the kids who bullied me in middle or high school to see where they're at in life. This is where one of them ended up in life. Good news is that we all get to keep tabs on America's bully. 

WXYZ: Man accused of stalking teenage social media star arrested in Pennsylvania

Edited November 6, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[LaceyLou]

3 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think infrequent voters and not politically engaged voters see "Trump" and think, hey that's the super successful guy from the apprentice, I wonder what he's been up to? I guess I'll vote for him.

which is why somebody should have repeatedly reminded people of his 6 bankruptcies, his many failed business ventures (how do you bankrupt a casino??), and all of his unpaid fees to vendors and rally sites. 

[1776]

7 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think infrequent voters and not politically engaged voters see "Trump" and think, hey that's the super successful guy from the apprentice, I wonder what he's been up to? I guess I'll vote for him.

Like him or hate him, I don’t believe any person above the age of 18 and breathing would wonder what he’s been up to. You’d have to be from another planet to be in the dark about a man that is obsessed over by every media outlet 24/7 for the past 10 years. 

Edited November 6, 2024 by 1776

[LaceyLou]

4 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Like him or hate him, I don’t believe any person above the age of 18 and breathing would wonder what he’s been up to. You’d have to be from another planet to be in the dark about a man that is obsessed over by every media outlet 24/7 for the past 10 years. 

Yet I commonly heard people say that his experience as a strong businessman was one reason they trusted him more on the economy-even though his history shows the exact opposite. Don't get me wrong, I think people voted for him because a lot of people like that he's cruel, but they don't seem to know just how much of a failure he has been. Being put on the Apprentice actually saved him from ruin.

[IdahoBert]

My son was greeted to this this morning at his warehouse job:

”This morning the first thing that one of my co-workers said to me was "we got our country back, pal!”

Some people just have no filters. People who do have a normal degree of empathy or concern for others feelings would leave well enough alone and not rub it in. They would know better, but not hard-core MAGA supporters. So many lack that simple socialized discretion and they can't resist sticking in the knife and twisting it. It’s this intrinsic, gloating cruelty that’s so painful to witness. My son is always already worried about attacks on his trans brother and then these SOB’s have to mess with him at work. 

[Kacie]

Well, we won't have to worry about the hispanic vote in 4 years.

Again, I feel like this was a lack of planning and foresight on behalf of the Democrats.  It was thought all along that Biden was just the gap one term president.  But they had no plan, no heir apparent.  Gotta say, was never a fan of Kamala as VP.  Got too late a start with out a theme or a defining identity other than not Trump.  They did a poor job of addressing the "Kamala wants to pay for prisoners sex changes"  I don't know as though they addressed it at all?  Same with the border.  While most of what the Trump turds said are lies, because of the media, it has to be addressed. I thought the abortion thing was WAY overplayed.  A big issue, yes. But they didn't address the economy in any meaningful way. People still are unaware the deficits rise under Rs and go down under Ds.   Their marketing still sucks.  

But this has been years in the making.  Once we lost the media, the emergence of the echo chamber social media, podcasts, Russian interference, couldn't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

I don't think the Democrats can nominate anyone other than a younger white man next time.  They need to start early and figure something out.  Truthfully, I think once Trump dies, the movement starts to fade.  I can't think of any young Republicans that anyone is fired up about.  They even hate JD Vance.  Hopefully there are still elections to be had.  

 

[Kacie]

Double post

 

Edited November 6, 2024 by Kacie

[LaceyLou]

So, looks like MA is still about 95% blue. 

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

So, looks like MA is still about 95% blue. 

Better hope no natural disasters come your way. 

[Tiger337]

55 minutes ago, ben9753 said:

There's very very few such people in 2024. 

They know who he is and what he's been doing, but a LOT of people think he was a successful businessman. 

Edited November 6, 2024 by Tiger337

[pfife]

54 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Like him or hate him, I don’t believe any person above the age of 18 and breathing would wonder what he’s been up to. You’d have to be from another planet to be in the dark about a man that is obsessed over by every media outlet 24/7 for the past 10 years. 

Check out cspan any morning from 7am to 10am.   Youll hear them call in.  Theyll also tell ypu their age too

Edited November 6, 2024 by pfife

[pfife]

7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

They know who he and what he's been doing, but a LOT of people think he was a successful businessman. 

And that hes "not a politician"

[Hongbit]

I think everyone only saw positives from the idea of rallying more people to exercise their right to vote. Maybe this result is the flip side of the push to get people to vote that normally wouldn’t due to either no interest or no understanding of politics.   This independent block wield enough power that they can tip the scales one way or another without really understanding what they are doing.    

[antrat]

One of the top searches on Google last night was "Did Joe Biden drop out?"

America. Land of the morons.

[Motown Bombers]

[1776]

44 minutes ago, Kacie said:

 

Again, I feel like this was a lack of planning and foresight on behalf of the Democrats.   

 

In the four years Harris was VP she was invisible. I’m not blaming her for that but if the party thought she was going to carry the torch forward post Biden they sure didn’t prepare her for it. And yes, Biden’s short notice exit didn’t help. 
Additionally, and this never made sense, why did the party pick the least successful primary challenger in 2020 to be the VP candidate? She made zero traction on the campaign trail and bailed. So who thought bringing her in as VP was a smart choice? And then she does nothing for four years. You could make a legitimate argument that she was set up to fail. 
Like Trump or not, he was in office for four years. You didn’t have to wonder who he was, good or bad. Harris? No track record in the executive. Only in the past six months or so does it seem she began getting some ‘look busy’ assignments. 

I will always believe that Harris was an Obama pick, fwiw. Bad move on whoever was responsible.

Edited November 6, 2024 by 1776

[LaceyLou]

Ugh, somebody on my friends list posted something in which, among other things, said that Jan 6th was a hoax. 

Fabulous. 

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, antrat said:

One of the top searches on Google last night was "Did Joe Biden drop out?"

America. Land of the morons.

Seriously, this is probably the main reason she lost.  There are millions of politically ignorant or disinterested who don't really know who she is.  So, they didn't vote.  The way she got the nomination was very unusual.  

[chasfh]

What's the over/under on when Vance takes over the presidency? I'm thinking August 4, 2026.

[chasfh]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

Seriously, this is probably the main reason she lost.  There are millions of politically ignorant or disinterested who don't really know who she is.  So, they didn't vote.  The way she got the nomination was very unusual.  

In any event, black lady pick was never going to beat Trump.

[pfife]

5 minutes ago, 1776 said:

In the four years Harris was VP she was invisible. I’m not blaming her for that but if the party thought she was going to carry the torch forward post Biden they sure didn’t prepare her for it. And yes, Biden’s short notice exit didn’t help. 
Additionally, and this never made sense, why did the party pick the least successful primary challenger in 2020 to be the VP candidate? She made zero traction on the campaign trail and bailed. So who thought bringing her in as VP was a smart choice? And then she does nothing for four years. You could make a legitimate argument that she was set up to fail. 
Like Trump or not, he was in office for four years. You didn’t have to wonder who he was, good or bad. Harris? No track record in the executive. Only in the past six months or so does it seem she began getting some ‘look busy’ assignments. 

I will always believe that Harris was an Obama pick, fwiw. Bad move on whoever was responsible.

Seems like day before yesterday not only was she not invisible but she was responsible for everything Biden Admin did.  

Ppl apparently get to have it both ways even when theyre contradictory ways.

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

In any event, black lady pick was never going to beat Trump.

Ignorant people probably assumed she was White.  

[antrat]

8 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

Ugh, somebody on my friends list posted something in which, among other things, said that Jan 6th was a hoax. 

Fabulous. 

"Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia"

[antrat]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

Ignorant people probably assumed she was White.  

According to Trump, she only decided she was black a little while ago.