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Schools that get to select their students do well.    one reason public schools always score worse than private is because they have to take every student.  Many students have disabilities acro

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He has immunity though so it’s all good. 

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Deep-seated fears of a Trump autocracy have led me to this path.  It started when I first saw him in a debate in 2015 and I thought "nobody could be this stupid and still have so many people cheering

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  On 11/19/2024 at 12:03 AM, Tiger337 said:

I know which poll you are talking about.  It turned out to be a poor poll. How does she benefit from that and why does she need to be investigated? 

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Because the only thing Drunk Trumpers do well is hold show investigations. 

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  On 11/19/2024 at 12:54 AM, Tigermojo said:

They have very selective hearing when it comes to what he says.

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Who are they. The statement came in one of Trump's own Truth Social posts

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A totally Fake poll that caused great distrust and uncertainty at a very critical time. She knew exactly what she was doing. Thank you to the GREAT PEOPLE OF IOWA for giving me such a record breaking vote, despite possible ELECTION FRAUD by Ann Selzer and the now discredited "newspaper" for which she works. An investigation is fully called for! desmoinesregister.com/story/op...

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Pollster Ann Selzer ending election polling, moving 'to other ventures and

Pollster Ann Selzer says she long planned to make the November lowa Poll her last election

poll and is moving on to new ventures and opportunities.

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  On 11/19/2024 at 1:43 AM, Tiger337 said:

Fox News cleans everything up for him. They present a totally different person from what we see.  

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One of the ironies of this cult. They want NBC, CBS, and even PBS's licenses. 1) The FCC does not issue licenses to networks, only individual stations, many of which are no longer owned by the networks. 2) Cable stations, unless they broadcast over the air, are not governed by the FCC.  3) The Fairness Doctrine, which could have conceivably controlled propaganda put out by companies like Fox and such or even the "liberal slant" of programmers like MSNBC, was repealed in 1987 and the FCC removed the rule that could have conceivably implemented the policy was eliminated in 2011.

Newspapers were never governed by such a policy. 

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  On 11/18/2024 at 11:23 PM, oblong said:

And what was the crime?  If someone got excited for an outlier poll that’s on them, not her. Did it cause any harm or effect?  

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The crime is dissent, and it will be seen whether that means merely exile, or something more.

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  On 11/19/2024 at 12:02 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I've heard rumors....many MAGA election officials had access to voting machines in key precincts.

Just sayin...

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The projection is strong. Someone accusing another of something there is no evidence for is frequently a cover for that someone’s misdeeds. And the louder the accusations, the more blatant their own misdeeds. There must be a Murphy’s law that contemplates that.

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Trump didn't appoint one single black person to his cabinet. All of the black campaign surrogates he had on the trail campaigning for him got passed over for cabinet positions. 

I suppose the guy that thinks the Egyptian pyramids were built by Joseph and used as grain silos, Ben Carson, could get his job back at HUD. Thus far though, not one black person appointed. 

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There is little doubt in my mind that Trump tried to cheat.  He has cheated at everything his entire life.  He has cheated his customers and contractors.  He has cheated on all his wives,  He's a tax cheat.  I could go on.  However, I don't believe his cheating was enough to turn the election.  Unlike MAGAs, I believe in democracy and the rule of law and I need very strong evidence in order to assert that an election was stolen.   

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  On 11/19/2024 at 12:53 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Have you been following Buck and a few other county recounts in Pennsylvania. 

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https://www.npr.org/2024/11/18/nx-s1-5195524/pennsylvania-election-ballots-senate-recount
 

is this the issue your talking about?
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/18/nx-s1-5195524/pennsylvania-election-ballots-senate-recount

About 400 "dirty ballots". Misdated, not sealed properly, etc. The Trumpublicans are afraid that there might be a few votes for Democrats in there. Funny these are the same guys who argued they should be counted in 2020 when they were losing. Hypocrites.

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Two years ago, during a Republican primary recount, McCormick took the opposite position on Pennsylvania's date requirement, arguing in court that undated and misdated ballots should be counted.

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  On 11/19/2024 at 4:07 PM, CMRivdogs said:

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/18/nx-s1-5195524/pennsylvania-election-ballots-senate-recount
 

is this the issue your talking about?
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/18/nx-s1-5195524/pennsylvania-election-ballots-senate-recount

About 400 "dirty ballots". Misdated, not sealed properly, etc. The Trumpublicans are afraid that there might be a few votes for Democrats in there. Funny these are the same guys who argued they should be counted in 2020 when they were losing. Hypocrites.

 

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I was speaking to the fact that the Penn supreme court (6-2 Dem controlled) ruled they were invalid. Yet they still want ot count them. Shapiro even agrees they need to stop. You agree they should count them I take it?

https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-recount-update-shapiro-sides-gop-against-faulty-ballots-1988019

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  On 11/19/2024 at 3:39 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Trump didn't appoint one single black person to his cabinet. All of the black campaign surrogates he had on the trail campaigning for him got passed over for cabinet positions. 

I suppose the guy that thinks the Egyptian pyramids were built by Joseph and used as grain silos, Ben Carson, could get his job back at HUD. Thus far though, not one black person appointed. 

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I have not seen any African American uproar about any of this. Just LW white folks telling people why they should be upset.

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