2024 Presidential Election thread

[Edman85]

  On 11/30/2024 at 5:37 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I just want to do away with that horrible Lee Greenwood song. So overused, and not great music to begin with. It's become trite. It ranks right up there with Tony Orlando and Yellow Ribbons

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[chasfh]

  On 12/2/2024 at 12:43 AM, Motown Bombers said:

 

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Good. Stick it right up Trump’s ass sideways.

[CMRivdogs]

Seeing reports of record breaking Black Friday sales and travel. This from the same people who just over a month ago said they couldn't afford gas and eggs.

[Tigeraholic1]

Just more facts. 

 

[CMRivdogs]

https://bsky.app/profile/patriottakes.bsky.social/post/3lcdnwlkcpk2n
 

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Trump popular vote lead is under 2%, hardly an earth-shattering mandate election.

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Newly tabulated ballots in Illinois slightly narrow Trump's popular vote lead. Added at certification:

Harris 6,662

Trump 4,562

Nationally, Trump leads by 2,396,373 votes (1.54%).

Last edited 11:32 AM • 12/2/24 • 1.3K Views

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Hardly an overwhelming mandate. Despite what Trumpaholic believes.

 

 

[Archie]

  On 12/2/2024 at 5:40 PM, CMRivdogs said:

https://bsky.app/profile/patriottakes.bsky.social/post/3lcdnwlkcpk2n
 

Hardly an overwhelming mandate. Despite what Trumpaholic believes.

 

 

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I think it will be a long time before we ever see a mandate vote or landslide win.  Most people are too dug in with their politics and won’t vote for the other party no matter how good or bad the candidates are.  Elections are decide by the few independent left.  This election is about as much of a mandate you will see.  It could have been a little worse if the Republican ran someone other than Trump since he loses a few votes himself but he was nowhere as bad as Harris.

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/2/2024 at 5:40 PM, CMRivdogs said:

https://bsky.app/profile/patriottakes.bsky.social/post/3lcdnwlkcpk2n
 

Hardly an overwhelming mandate. Despite what Trumpaholic believes.

 

 

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Is it a lie Harris did not flip one county? Please show me where this is not a fact?

[LaceyLou]

  On 11/30/2024 at 5:37 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I just want to do away with that horrible Lee Greenwood song. So overused, and not great music to begin with. It's become trite. It ranks right up there with Tony Orlando and Yellow Ribbons

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Every time I hear about that second song, I remember a piece Mad Magazine did in parody of Carter's Presidency which had musical numbers. There was a 'song' by his brother to be sung to the tune of Tie A Yellow Ribbon 'round the Old Oak Tree' but the lyrics became 'try a Pabst Blue Ribbon, you'll feel good you'll see..."

In other words, I prefer it to the Lee Greenwood song now. 😉

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Wasn't Donald Trump supposed to be the modern day Cindy Sheehan? We were told by the MAGA cult that he is anti-war and pro peace. Does any of what he wrote above sound anti-war and pro peace to you? Does any of what he wrote above sound like he is a candidate who believes in peace through diplomacy and a person who will avoid conflict?

Edited December 2, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[chasfh]

  On 12/2/2024 at 8:45 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Wasn't Donald Trump supposed to be the modern day Cindy Sheehan? We were told by the MAGA cult that he is anti-war and pro peace. Does any of what he wrote above sound anti-war and pro peace to you? Does any of what he wrote above sound like he is a candidate who believes in peace through diplomacy and a person who will avoid conflict?

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Trump dropped bombs on seven countries when he was president the first time around.

[gehringer_2]

  On 12/2/2024 at 8:45 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Wasn't Donald Trump supposed to be the modern day Cindy Sheehan? We were told by the MAGA cult that he is anti-war and pro peace. Does any of what he wrote above sound anti-war and pro peace to you? Does any of what he wrote above sound like he is a candidate who believes in peace through diplomacy and a person who will avoid conflict?

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It's empty rhetoric in any case. The US can't do anything to Hamas any harder or more effectively than Israel has already been doing. The only impact US involvement would have is if the US gave Iran an ultimatum on the theory Iran could force Hamas, but I'm not sure that's still a good theory at this point.

[Tigermojo]

Trump is going to be very busy his first day, right after a round of golf, a trip to McDonald's and a dirty diaper change.

[casimir]

  On 12/2/2024 at 8:45 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Wasn't Donald Trump supposed to be the modern day Cindy Sheehan? We were told by the MAGA cult that he is anti-war and pro peace. Does any of what he wrote above sound anti-war and pro peace to you? Does any of what he wrote above sound like he is a candidate who believes in peace through diplomacy and a person who will avoid conflict?

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Admittedly I don’t get out much, but I don’t ever recall Trump being lauded as anti war and pro peace.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 12/3/2024 at 12:27 AM, casimir said:

Admittedly I don’t get out much, but I don’t ever recall Trump being lauded as anti war and pro peace.

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Yes, his MAGA folks were going around bashing Liz Cheney (which I'm all in favor of on foreign policy) and talking about how there were no wars under Trump (which is not true). They talked about him as if he were Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink. 

[pfife]

they bash Biden about leaving Afghanistan and also say we weren't in war with Slump as president but making sense isn't the goal

[romad1]

If any of these MAGA creeps were anti-war they would oppose Putin.

[chasfh]

  On 12/3/2024 at 12:17 AM, gehringer_2 said:

It's empty rhetoric in any case. The US can't do anything to Hamas any harder or more effectively than Israel has already been doing.

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But he can start dropping bombs on Iran. After all, Iraq didn’t have anything to do with 9/11, either.

[chasfh]

  On 12/3/2024 at 11:16 AM, romad1 said:

If any of these MAGA creeps were anti-war they would oppose Putin.

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Well, they do oppose Ukraine, so that’s what passes as anti-war cred.

[oblong]

right.  Putin wants Ukraine and to today's republican party, Putin gets what Putin wants so the fact Ukraine didn't roll over then he has to start a war and that war is Ukraine's fault and it's the fault of everybody who is supporting Ukraine in their defense.  If hey would just roll over then there's no problems. Classic mafia and bully tactics.  If these bars and restaurants would just play ball and pay their tribute to the Don then there wouldn't be any killings and bombings.

 

[chasfh]

  On 12/3/2024 at 1:36 PM, oblong said:

right.  Putin wants Ukraine and to today's republican party, Putin gets what Putin wants so the fact Ukraine didn't roll over then he has to start a war and that war is Ukraine's fault and it's the fault of everybody who is supporting Ukraine in their defense.  If hey would just roll over then there's no problems. Classic mafia and bully tactics.  If these bars and restaurants would just play ball and pay their tribute to the Don then there wouldn't be any killings and bombings.

 

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I remember going to HR early-ish in my career because my boss, who was known to be skating on thin ice in other aspects of her job, was using the force of her authority to employ bullying tactics against me. I had been chafing against it, but it was only getting worse. HR’s suggestion? Just show acceptance of it by “rolling over and showing my belly”—that way I’d be showing my submission in a proper way, she’d be satisfied that I recognize her as the dominant force, and then she would stop bullying me and start treating me with respect.

That was the last time I ever went to HR for anything.

[romad1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 1:44 PM, chasfh said:

I remember going to HR early-ish in my career because my boss, who was known to be skating on thin ice in other aspects of her job, was using the force of her authority to employ bullying tactics against me. I had been chafing against it, but it was only getting worse. HR’s suggestion? Just show acceptance of it by “rolling over and showing my belly”—that way I’d be showing my submission in a proper way, she’d be satisfied that I recognize her as the dominant force, and then she would stop bullying me and start treating me with respect.

That was the last time I ever went to HR for anything.

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If the HR manager suggests you try cutting yourself as a coping mechanism it’s probably an indicator they have their own share of problems.

[chasfh]

  On 12/3/2024 at 4:37 PM, romad1 said:

If the HR manager suggests you try cutting yourself as a coping mechanism it’s probably an indicator they have their own share of problems.

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Yes. Well, that and HR works for them, not for you, so it's you they are trying to neuter and manage, not the bosses they are trying to protect from people like you.

[romad1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 4:48 PM, chasfh said:

Yes. Well, that and HR works for them, not for you, so it's you they are trying to neuter and manage, not the bosses they are trying to protect from people like you.

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Concur 

[Tiger337]

I find that one way to handle bullies in positions of authority is a form of passive aggressiveness where you do your work, but don't engage with them much (maybe a sarcastic smirk once in a while just for your own satisfaction).  Standing up to them works in the moment, but doesn't solve the problem because they'll want revenge.  Subservience is never a good response because they'll just bully you more quietly.  Passive aggressiveness works especially well with extoverts because extroverts (and it's been my observation that most bullies are extroverts)can not handle passive aggressiveness.  

Yes, my solution is immature and don't do it anymore, but it works!

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[chasfh]

  On 12/3/2024 at 5:07 PM, Tiger337 said:

I find that one way to handle bullies in positions of authority is a form of passive aggressiveness where you do your work, but don't engage with them much (maybe a sarcastic smirk once in a while just for your own satisfaction).  Standing up to them works in the moment, but doesn't solve the problem because they'll want revenge.  Subservience is never a good response because they'll just bully you more quietly.  Passive aggressiveness works especially well with extoverts because extroverts (and it's been my observation that most bullies are extroverts)can not handle passive aggressiveness.  

Yes, my solution is immature and don't do it anymore, but it works!

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That sounds reasonable for certain types of employees, particularly individual contributors who don't have responsibility for anyone but themselves, but since I was a VP with direct reports and I was reporting to her, the SVP, that kind of passive aggression would not have worked for my circumstance. Plus, she would have sussed out and punished me for something like that in a millisecond, because group politics was her thing. It was all I could do to manage my people since she would routinely go around me to them for various things, not the least of which was drawing out unofficial feedback about me. I know this because, thank god, I had one guy loyal to me from a previous company we both worked for who clued me in to that.

Since I knew she was on thin air in other areas, I just waited for the hammer to come down on her, which it did probably within a few months after that HR meeting.

God, do I ever not miss that ****.