2024 Presidential Election thread

[mtutiger]

Word salad, with a side of entitlement cuts

[romad1]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Word salad, with a side of entitlement cuts

We should definitely trust this band of crooks to guard the system we've paid into our entire lives. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Word salad, with a side of entitlement cuts

That line at the beginning where he talks about cutting entitlements should be in ad after ad. The Republicans want to cut your Social Security and Medicare seems a very effective argument for Democrats.

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

That line at the beginning where he talks about cutting entitlements should be in ad after ad. The Republicans want to cut your Social Security and Medicare seems a very effective argument for Democrats.

One of the largest balancing acts for Biden in this campaign is hitting on the freedom side of his message while still speaking to middle class economics (which he did a pretty good job of in his SOTU, imo).

Gifts like this from Trump will help a lot.... but even aside from that takeaway, it's striking how Trump seems even less coherent than in the past, which is saying something. A whole lot of words that make absolutely no sense when you read them aloud.

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

One of the largest balancing acts for Biden in this campaign is hitting on the freedom side of his message while still speaking to middle class economics (which he did a pretty good job of in his SOTU, imo).

Gifts like this from Trump will help a lot.... but even aside from that takeaway, it's striking how Trump seems even less coherent than in the past, which is saying something. A whole lot of words that make absolutely no sense when you read them aloud.

I'm convinced in addition to cognitive decline, that Trump is not surrounded by the same people as in 2016 and it's showing. He had some competent campaign people in 2016. They have been purged for sycophants and it shows. It was always about himself, but he could stay on message and offer simple solutions to the rubes like a wall. Now he just rants about how he's being treated so unfairly. He's also attacking people he needs like Haley supporters. In 2016 he at least attempted to even persuade Sanders supporters. It's almost like he radicalized himself.   

[chasfh]

Edited March 11, 2024 by chasfh

[mtutiger]

31 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm convinced in addition to cognitive decline, that Trump is not surrounded by the same people as in 2016 and it's showing. He had some competent campaign people in 2016. They have been purged for sycophants and it shows. It was always about himself, but he could stay on message and offer simple solutions to the rubes like a wall. Now he just rants about how he's being treated so unfairly. He's also attacking people he needs like Haley supporters. In 2016 he at least attempted to even persuade Sanders supporters. It's almost like he radicalized himself.   

A lot of this evolution starts from the basic fact that he has never acknowledged that he lost in 2020.... why would the messaging change if you're convinced that you actually won and it was all stolen from you? Why would you think you need Haley voters if you're busy convincing yourself that all of those voters are "all Democrats"?

[chasfh]

Hard to see how Trump can win once he has expelled all the RINOs from the party. 

[oblong]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Hard to see how Trump can win once he has expelled all the RINOs from the party. 

Problem is a good number of those RINO's will still vote for him because Biden's old or Kamala or something...

[chasfh]

22 minutes ago, oblong said:

Problem is a good number of those RINO's will still vote for him because Biden's old or Kamala or something...

I think they will have had more than their fill of him eight months from now. 

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Word salad, with a side of entitlement cuts

Trump sounds like a third grader trying to write a book report on a book he didn't read.  

[The Ronz]

Trump’s niece Mary Trump who has a PhD in Clinical Psychology has always maintained that he has an “undiagnosed learning disability.”

Trump’s sister, also named Mary Trump, said “he doesn’t read.” She didn’t say he couldn’t read just that he doesn't.

Unlike someone else who is always mentioned as having “dementia” Trump may actually have untreated cognitive issue.

[chasfh]

“Learning disability” was the catch-all phrase they used to apply to kids 50 or 60 years ago when they wanted to justify pulling us out of regular school and putting us on the short bus to special ed. 

[CMRivdogs]

It was also an era when incorrigible young males were sent to military schools if the parents could afford it. Fork Union was a popular place in our juristiction.

[oblong]

I'd say he's probably dyslexic but is too macho/embarassed to say so and deal with it and instead operates under the belief reading is beneath him, he'll just do the big things and leave the details to others.

 

[The Ronz]

Children that were considered "handicapped" in any manner - not that they actually were - were denied the right to attend public school until 1975.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_for_All_Handicapped_Children_Act

 

 

 

 

 

[The Ronz]

4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

It was also an era when incorrigible young males were sent to military schools if the parents could afford it. Fork Union was a popular place in our juristiction.

Who is it that is running for President that attended a military school?

 

[CMRivdogs]

5 minutes ago, The Ronz said:

Who is it that is running for President that attended a military school?

 

DJT was sent to NY Military Academy in 8th grade. He graduated high school from there.

[romad1]

49 minutes ago, oblong said:

I'd say he's probably dyslexic but is too macho/embarassed to say so and deal with it and instead operates under the belief reading is beneath him, he'll just do the big things and leave the details to others.

 

Barron was reputed to be.  

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

Problem is a good number of those RINO's will still vote for him because Biden's old or Kamala or something...

This. Insane but true.

[oblong]

41 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Barron was reputed to be.  

The way he behaved in public at the few events we saw him was... not unfamilair to those around autistic people.

 

[romad1]

I'm really curious which thread the Chubb underwriting the E.Jean Carroll bond should go in.   

Is this a Vladdi thread thing?  

is this a new thread for specific Trump kleptocracy "How Krooked is Now?"  (riffing off the Smith's song "how soon is now")

 

 

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, The Ronz said:

Trump’s niece Mary Trump who has a PhD in Clinical Psychology has always maintained that he has an “undiagnosed learning disability.”

Trump’s sister, also named Mary Trump, said “he doesn’t read.” She didn’t say he couldn’t read just that he doesn't.

Unlike someone else who is always mentioned as having “dementia” Trump may actually have untreated cognitive issue.

Scaramucci said he thinks Trump is smart about some things, but that he has a learning disability that holds him back and that he is insecure about it.  

[1984Echoes]

3 hours ago, oblong said:

Problem is a good number of those RINO's will still vote for him because Biden's old or Kamala or something...

Or they'll stay at home, disheartened. 

Or write in Haley-Kasich instead... I saw somewhere...

[mtutiger]

In terms of Trump's capacity, the thing that has always been striking to me isn't his intelligence, it's his complete and total lack of empathy. 

He's clearly older and more forgetful now (and, who knows, may have some issues that we don't know about), but even when he was younger, the guy has always just come across like a deeply sociopathic and broken individual.

Edited March 11, 2024 by mtutiger