2024 Presidential Election thread

[ewsieg]

  On 6/28/2024 at 2:44 AM, romad1 said:

The battle has turned thanks to the new munitions.

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Well NK is coming! 
 

joking aside, the country has been seriously damaged and dealt significant loss. If not one more Ukrainian dies and they regain the East and Crimes, only then would that possibly considered a win. 
 

For the US it’s been great though, humiliate Russia via a proxy is priceless.

[Motown Bombers]

There is still the convention. Biden has a chance to deliver a state of the union type speech. I don't think this will matter come election time. 

[ewsieg]

I’m going to turn off Maddow trying to outline why this could be good and I’m going to watch The Boys so I know what to expect next year.

[Motown Bombers]

Not all Dems are wetting the bed.

 

[romad1]

The Arizona panel is killing Biden and Trump.  I think they are where most people are. 

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

I just thought, if they couldn't speak English and just went off subtitles, Biden probably comes off a lot better as he wins on substance. 

Edited June 28, 2024 by Motown Bombers

[Motown Bombers]

 

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[romad1]

Morning Joe is savaging the performance.   Trump was lying so badly but Biden didn't provide an effective response.

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[romad1]

My wife was beside herself with anguish about the night. 

[romad1]

yeah, this. 

[romad1]

This is going to be an interesting Month of July if they do decide to pull the plug. 

• Dean Phillips has actual delegates
• Undecided has a few
• Harris might be in a good position.  I could imagine her doing very well given all the wind at her back.

[romad1]

John Kelly stand up.

[casimir]

  On 6/28/2024 at 1:56 AM, casimir said:

The other old guy will be planning a national emergency on day one if elected.

These are the two choices we have.  How many people in this country, and these are the two choices we have for the presidency?

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So sad I missed the part where two doddering old fools were **** waving about their golf games.

[romad1]

  On 6/28/2024 at 10:51 AM, casimir said:

So sad I missed the part where two doddering old fools were **** waving about their golf games.

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Yeah, the election didn't matter for you. 

[casimir]

  On 6/28/2024 at 10:54 AM, romad1 said:

Yeah, the election didn't matter for you. 

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Make sure you enunciate that "l" properly in reference to my post.

[casimir]

  On 6/28/2024 at 10:13 AM, romad1 said:

 

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And the middle paragraph is the most important issue this election.  The first debate was a poor SNL skit.  Neither candidate might make it through the next term.  But allowing Trump any time at all back in the chair is a plea for chaos and destruction by someone who has no concern for anything but himself.

[romad1]

Gavin Newsome looks like he's ready to run for the shortened primary this next two months.

[1984Echoes]

  On 6/28/2024 at 2:48 AM, NYLion said:

.... Scary and especially in Biden's case, his quick decline is very concerning already so how is he going to handle 4 more years?

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Not any differently than Reagan during HIS 2nd term.

[romad1]

  On 6/28/2024 at 11:16 AM, 1984Echoes said:

Not any differently than Reagan during HIS 2nd term.

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Or FDR in his 4th.  I think the key consideration there is that FDR was within 6months of his own death when he was elected. 

[mtutiger]

  On 6/28/2024 at 3:37 AM, romad1 said:

The Arizona panel is killing Biden and Trump.  I think they are where most people are. 

 

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Biden's performance was horrific, no getting around it. But it seems like more non-politicial follows on Twitter + friends on Facebook commenting about debate seem to be more focused on the overall "these are our choices" theme, which doesn't exactly reflect well on Trump or his performance either.

Biden will bear the brunt of the media coverage though, and not totally without reason. This debate was supposed to assuage fears, not further inflame them. And if they did it, it would take some time, but they would need to orchestrate some sort of dignified off-ramp to Kamala (who, again, is really the only option at this point)

[Motown Bombers]

  On 6/28/2024 at 11:03 AM, romad1 said:

Gavin Newsome looks like he's ready to run for the shortened primary this next two months.

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Newsom polls worse than Biden. Republicans fall in line and Democrats wet themselves. 

Edited June 28, 2024 by Motown Bombers

[oblong]

  On 6/28/2024 at 11:23 AM, romad1 said:

Or FDR in his 4th.  I think the key consideration there is that FDR was within 6months of his own death when he was elected. 

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When Truman was selected as VP by the backroom they knew they were picking the next President.  It's one of the many parallels he shares with Gerald Ford.  Neither wanted the job and were picked as VP due to their non threatening nature and the fact they would be acceptable as the next POTUS to everyone in the party, and across the aisle in Ford's case.