Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 05:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:22 PM 30 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: They're being a bunch of pansies and talking about fantasies of what white governor they want to replace Biden with. They need to fall in line behind Biden or get their useless ass out of the way. Raphael Warnock is neither white nor a Governor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:24 PM 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I understand that, but if voters get the impression that Biden is not mentally fit and is going downhill, I fear that is going to really hurt voter turnout. And it wouldn't be a matter of bypassing Biden. They would have to convince him to drop out due to a "medical problem". I am not saying that SHOULD happen, but Biden's speaking problems have grown into a significant concern. It's no longer just a Fox News sound clip. There is literally no evidence this had any effect on voters. Biden did fine at the state of the union. One debate later and snowflakes want him to drop out and can't even decide on his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted Friday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:25 PM I can’t understand how anybody can sit through one of these so called “debates.” Joe Biden has been in Washington for more than 50 years. Trump has been as high a profile figure in politics as anyone for eight years now. Other than dodging questions and blaming one another, what is there to it? There is nothing new. The public records speak louder than their prepared rhetoric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:25 PM 2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Raphael Warnock is neither white nor a Governor. What makes you think Warnock would do any better than Biden? Just because he's a black senator doesn't mean he's the next Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted Friday at 05:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:29 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: There is literally no evidence this had any effect on voters. Biden did fine at the state of the union. One debate later and snowflakes want him to drop out and can't even decide on his replacement. It has an effect on me. I don't want him to be President if he can't communicate sufficiently. It's just that the alternative is so horrible that there is no other choice for me. All it takes is to alienate a few thousand swing state voters and the election is lost. Edited Friday at 05:29 PM by Tiger337 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:31 PM Perhaps the Dems wetting themselves should actually watch his rally going on right now. Lots of energy focused, and chants of four more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted Friday at 05:33 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:33 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Raphael Warnock is neither white nor a Governor. Brian Kemp is white, he's a Governor, and he'd be replacing Warnock on Earth 2.0 if Warnock won as a candidate on a D ticket Or are we just gonna throw names out like this is fantasy baseball some more without thinking about the second order effects? Edited Friday at 05:34 PM by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:42 PM So I watched a lot of Biden's rally and it was good. He had energy, his voice wasn't raspy, he didn't stumble, he was focused, and the crowd was engaged. I'm guessing a lot of the panicking Dems didn't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:43 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:43 PM 8 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Brian Kemp is white, he's a Governor, and he'd be replacing Warnock on Earth 2.0 if Warnock won as a candidate on a D ticket Or are we just gonna throw names out like this is fantasy baseball some more without thinking about the second order effects? This is another thing. If Shapiro or Whitmer win, you're upending the governorship in a swing state. Sitting governors running for higher office usually take hits in popularity. People don't like when their focus is split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:46 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:46 PM Just curious if anyone knows what the younger more energetic Trump is doing today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:48 PM "Donald Trump is a one man crime wave." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted Friday at 05:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:49 PM 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Just curious if anyone knows what the younger more energetic Trump is doing today? He's in my neck of the woods (about 50 miles away, across the Bay) in Chesapeake Va for a rally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:51 PM 1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said: He's in my neck of the woods (about 50 miles away, across the Bay) in Chesapeake Va for a rally So he's doing a rally in a state he is very unlikely to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted Friday at 05:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:56 PM Just now, Motown Bombers said: So he's doing a rally in a state he is very unlikely to win? It's a bright red area in a district that flipped blue to red in '22. Keep in mind Trump lite Glen Youngkin (who's at the rally and possibility for VP) won the state in '21. Outside of the DC suburbs, Va is a tossup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 05:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:58 PM Just now, CMRivdogs said: It's a bright red area in a district that flipped blue to red in '22. Keep in mind Trump lite Glen Youngkin (who's at the rally and possibility for VP) won the state in '21. Outside of the DC suburbs, Va is a tossup The DC suburbs are a major chunk of the population. It's a Biden +10 state. Trump's time would be better spent elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:15 PM 4 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Brian Kemp is white, he's a Governor, and he'd be replacing Warnock on Earth 2.0 if Warnock won as a candidate on a D ticket Or are we just gonna throw names out like this is fantasy baseball some more without thinking about the second order effects? Just as much as Brian Kemp replacing Warnock with a Republican hurts Democrats, so too does a top of the ticket that sinks down ballot races. Biden himself was not a net positive for down ballot candidates in 2020 as evidenced by the beating Democrats took down ballot. In 2016 Clinton actually, potentially, cost Democrats the Senate with her underperformance in two battleground states that had Senate races that yea, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Katie McGinty and Russ Finegold in 2016 were likely hurt by an underperforming top of the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:26 PM 11 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Just as much as Brian Kemp replacing Warnock with a Republican hurts Democrats, so too does a top of the ticket that sinks down ballot races. Biden himself was not a net positive for down ballot candidates in 2020 as evidenced by the beating Democrats took down ballot. In 2016 Clinton actually, potentially, cost Democrats the Senate with her underperformance in two battleground states that had Senate races that yea, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Katie McGinty and Russ Finegold in 2016 were likely hurt by an underperforming top of the ticket. Are you voting for Biden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Friday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:34 PM GDT rules apply i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 06:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:37 PM Biden is skilled when talking directly to voters. He doesn't know how to deal with a criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:39 PM Even Obama can tell you fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Friday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:52 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Polling shows Harris, Newsom and Whitmer do worse against Trump than Biden but my vibes tell me they would all beat Trump. #NYTPitchbot. Except those polls are pretty meaningless because none of those people have mounted any kind of national campaign to raise their recognition levels. August to November provides plenty of time for that. Also none of those people have Biden's endorsement, which would be a major factor *if* it does ever gets to that which is still unlikely IMHO. Edited Friday at 06:53 PM by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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