2024 Presidential Election thread

[CMRivdogs]

Especially if you throw in $$$ collected from related industries, I.E. hotels, restaurants, and related theme parks not owned by The Mouse.

[Motown Bombers]

Let's not forget the other amusement parks in Orlando. People don't go to Orlando because of Universal Studios. They go because of Disney World. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

I lived in Florida and worked at Disney World and hated both. Desantis has made me feel sympathetic to a company I despise. 

I have never been to Disney, but it does not sound like a place I would ever have enjoyed past the age of about five.  It is incredibly popular though, even for adults.  

Edited April 18, 2023 by Tiger337

[CMRivdogs]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

I have never been to Disney, but it does not sound like a place I would ever have enjoyed past the age of about five.  It is incredibly popular though, even for adults.  

I've heard their on property hotels are nice. I wasn't impressed with their timeshare property in Hilton Head however. I'm not sure it's comparable 

[CMRivdogs]

Interesting thread considering the source. I find it interesting that one time so called Conservatives were in favor of the free market as well as corporate rights until they disagree with them for whatever reason.

Eric, what's good for the goose

[CMRivdogs]

FWIW...economic impact Disney brings to Florid

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A  2019 study found Disney dominates the Central Florida tourism industry, according to Oxford Economics, and produced:   

• $75.2 billion annual economic impact for Central Florida. 

• 463,000 jobs.  

• $5.8 billion in additional state tax revenue. 

The sales tax collected just on the 58 million Disney World tickets sold in 2018 was $409 million. That’s more than what the state will spend this year on school construction and maintenance or the entire Department of Elder Affairs budget.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/14/walt-disney-world-remains-florida-biggest-political-power-50-years-later/5919720001/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

[oblong]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Interesting thread considering the source. I find it interesting that one time so called Conservatives were in favor of the free market as well as corporate rights until they disagree with them for whatever reason.

Eric, what's good for the goose

What exact agenda offends them?  Who is harmed by whatever it was that Disney did.  Be nice to LGBTQ.  that's their beef.  Remember that.

I wish we had some smart right wingers around to explain to me the problem because I know I'm now biased the other way but I'm open to being told I'm wrong and there's something I'm not considering.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Interesting thread considering the source. I find it interesting that one time so called Conservatives were in favor of the free market as well as corporate rights until they disagree with them for whatever reason.

Eric, what's good for the goose

Eric apparently never met nor hear of the Koch Bros, or Exxon Mobil, or RJR, or the Telecom industry, or Trial lawyers, or the AMA, or the Health Insurance industry, or ADM, or the Auto Industry, or ............

Of course there is an answer to his concern - it's called public campaign financing. What do you say Eric?

Edited April 18, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

What exact agenda offends them?  Who is harmed by whatever it was that Disney did.  Be nice to LGBTQ.  that's their beef.  Remember that.

I wish we had some smart right wingers around to explain to me the problem because I know I'm now biased the other way but I'm open to being told I'm wrong and there's something I'm not considering.

I don't think there is any smart way to support conservative cultural crap.  There might be ways to talk intelligently about financial/economic stuff, but I don't think Disney is about that.

[Edman85]

There's some smoke here. A little timeline from what I remember.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11885589/Ron-DeSantis-donor-killed-amid-accusations-sexual-misconduct-underage-girl.html

Earlier that week, a local agitator got into it with the Republican Mayor of Jacksonville on Twitter. Mayor Curry is known for his late night drunken angry tweets (aren't we all), and I retweet a screenshot if it for posterity. Basically, the agitator was hinting that Stermon had recently lost his unfettered access to the Sherrif's office, and Curry was quick to go out of line and call Stermon a friend while telling the reporter to "Pound Sand Chump."

After I retweet it, I get a  text from a coworker who saw that exchange and says he knows Stermon, used to live down the street from him. He's a creep, didn't trust his daughter around him. Also, he was Facebook friends with him and he had become unhinged, some long ranting posts asking DeSantis for help. Two days later, a few hours before the media reported it, the coworker informed me about Stermon's suicide. Something's up. I don't believe this is a murder cover-up situation. Post offices likely have surveillance.

Stermon was more than a donor, as the article details.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Edman85

[Edman85]

Also, people are just now finding out DeSantis is anti-business? He was not allowing businesses to have COVID precautions in 2020. **** that guy.

[mtutiger]

General comment here, but the last 24 hours of news coverage / GOP endorsements of Trump heavily suggests the obvious: DeSantis will not be the GOP nominee in 24.

[oblong]

12 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

General comment here, but the last 24 hours of news coverage / GOP endorsements of Trump heavily suggests the obvious: DeSantis will not be the GOP nominee in 24.

What do you mean?  He got Chip Roy!

[RatkoVarda]

[gehringer_2]

41 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

LOL - You can't beat something with nothing, and outside of Trumpism, the GOP's got nothing to offer. DeSantis is trying to do Trump Lite when Trumps biggest appeal to his fans is exactly how unLite he is. 

[oblong]

DeSantis will off set those missing Trump voters with the suburban vote because we all know that their biggest fear is Disney and Gay people.

 

[CMRivdogs]

RFK Jr doing a lot of family name dropping in his speech. I was 16 when Bobby Sr ran. This kid is no RFK Sr.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

RFK Jr doing a lot of family name dropping in his speech. I was 16 when Bobby Sr ran. This kid is no RFK Sr.

I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy!

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I watched a small bit of RFK's announcement and is his voice always that horse? Maybe he has covid?

[Dan Gilmore]

If he’s a horse, give him invermectin, if he’s hoarse, give him a Ricola.

[digitalpigsmuggler]

5 hours ago, mtutiger said:

General comment here, but the last 24 hours of news coverage / GOP endorsements of Trump heavily suggests the obvious: DeSantis will not be the GOP nominee in 24.

It's April. Look at McCain or Obama.

[chasfh]

5 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - You can't beat something with nothing, and outside of Trumpism, the GOP's got nothing to offer. DeSantis is trying to do Trump Lite when Trumps biggest appeal to his fans is exactly how unLite he is. 

Trumpism without the Trump is just fascism without the fun.

 

 

 

Edited April 19, 2023 by chasfh

[oblong]

3 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I watched a small bit of RFK's announcement and is his voice always that horse? Maybe he has covid?

He does have some kind of condition where it’s like that.  Don’t know if it was cancer or whatever. But that is how he talks. 

[oblong]

I have a hard time watching Curb now knowing Cheryl Hines is/was married to that guy. 

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

Trumpism without the Trump is just fascism without the fun.

 

 

 

It's funny seeing politicians try to be the cntrolled version of Trump because his supporters like that he is out of control.