romad1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 meanwhile Tim Alberta is out with another long form takedown of the RW he grew up in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This is the takeaway They are worried that kamela will form a contrast with Trump that they can't fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewsieg Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 11 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't know where you are going with this. MB has already given you the black and white chapter and verse. Presidents *always* go to Walter Reed for an annual - it's pretty much tradition over decades if nothing else (well maybe all except Trump who didn't want his being subject to any official view) https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/articles/walter-reed-why-do-presidents-go-to-a-military-hospital Initially it was that this doc went to the White House and that's apparently normal for a specialist to go there because as you said, it just makes sense for people at that pay grade to have that service there and not deal with DC traffic, but then when I show Biden went to Walter Reed for his annual, which is when the WH stated he saw this doc, well, of course he did, that's where the president always goes. So the WH decided it was better to bring in not only Doctors, but even specialists into the WH for everone BUT the president? Simply because of tradition? As Biden says "C'mon man". There is more to this and the cover up is annoying as I hate getting lied to. That said I do understand I shouldn't question as Trump is the bigger threat. That said I didn't go down that no questioning rode when Trump took over the GOP and I don't particularly want to start now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Initially it was that this doc went to the White House and that's apparently normal for a specialist to go there because as you said, it just makes sense for people at that pay grade to have that service there and not deal with DC traffic, but then when I show Biden went to Walter Reed for his annual, which is when the WH stated he saw this doc, well, of course he did, that's where the president always goes. So the WH decided it was better to bring in not only Doctors, but even specialists into the WH for everone BUT the president? Simply because of tradition? As Biden says "C'mon man". There is more to this and the cover up is annoying as I hate getting lied to. That said I do understand I shouldn't question as Trump is the bigger threat. That said I didn't go down that no questioning rode when Trump took over the GOP and I don't particularly want to start now. *Sigh* You're just going to keep doubling down on this are you? I literally showed you every time the Neuro visited the White House. I showed you the likely date the Neuro met with Biden which corresponds with what the White House has said. This whole story came about because a lazy NYT reporter saw on public record a Neuro who specializes in Parkinson's visited the White House. Biden wasn't even there most of the time. Just take the L and move on. My uncle had Parkinson's. Biden exhibits non of the symptoms he had. Frankly, it's offensive people keep pushing this conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Biden’s favorables are a lot better than Trump. Dems need to get into the fight. It’s a toss up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I don’t think these white Dems realize how much they’ll piss off the black base if they force Biden out and even replace him with Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I don’t think these white Dems realize how much they’ll piss off the black base if they force Biden out and even replace him with Harris. again, real talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 38 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: *Sigh* You're just going to keep doubling down on this are you? I literally showed you every time the Neuro visited the White House. I showed you the likely date the Neuro met with Biden which corresponds with what the White House has said. This whole story came about because a lazy NYT reporter saw on public record a Neuro who specializes in Parkinson's visited the White House. Biden wasn't even there most of the time. Just take the L and move on. My uncle had Parkinson's. Biden exhibits non of the symptoms he had. Frankly, it's offensive people keep pushing this conspiracy. I didn't realize that the WH came out and 'clarified' he was seen by the Neuro doc on 1/17, previously they stated it was done when he got his annual exam, which was 2/28. (Another words the lazy NYT reporter was correct and the Biden administration was lazy in their response) In the back of my mind I'm thinking that I was told POTUS always goes to Walter Reed, so if that's the rule/tradition, why? Not a big deal though, to be honest this is what i'd expect for POTUS, although no one is selling me that everyone else that works in the WH gets to see their specialist there too. But getting back on point, his annual was done on 2/28 and that day the WH released a statement that said no signs of trouble were discovered. Again, maybe i'm wrong, but i'm assuming most healthy people with no concerns don't go and see specialists prior to an annual check up. So maybe a questioning person might ask why see a Neuro doctor if there are no concerns and he was scheduled for his yearly checkup just a month later which would determine if there was any need to see any type of specialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 10 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I didn't realize that the WH came out and 'clarified' he was seen by the Neuro doc on 1/17, previously they stated it was done when he got his annual exam, which was 2/28. (Another words the lazy NYT reporter was correct and the Biden administration was lazy in their response) In the back of my mind I'm thinking that I was told POTUS always goes to Walter Reed, so if that's the rule/tradition, why? Not a big deal though, to be honest this is what i'd expect for POTUS, although no one is selling me that everyone else that works in the WH gets to see their specialist there too. But getting back on point, his annual was done on 2/28 and that day the WH released a statement that said no signs of trouble were discovered. Again, maybe i'm wrong, but i'm assuming most healthy people with no concerns don't go and see specialists prior to an annual check up. So maybe a questioning person might ask why see a Neuro doctor if there are no concerns and he was scheduled for his yearly checkup just a month later which would determine if there was any need to see any type of specialists. *Sigh* The White House press secretary said Biden saw the Neuro on January 17th for an exam. Its backed up by the logs. "“Because the date was not mentioned in the question, I want to be clear that the Jan. 17 meeting between Dr. O’Connor and Dr. Cannard was for the President’s physical,” Jean-Pierre said in a statement to the AP on Tuesday. “It was one of the three times the President has seen Dr. Cannard, each time for his physical. The findings from each exam have been released to the public.” https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-health-neurology-physical-da9e9af344898a74ef6227bf157a1be0 The NYT is correct that a Neuro visited the White House 8 times over a course of the year. What is incorrect is the inuendo that Biden has Parkinson's because he's there. The White House logs showed he was there visiting the liaison to Walter Reed in the residential clinic. He was there for hours likely seeing patients. Biden wasn't there most of the time so not him. Biden has neuropathy. That was listed in his physical exam. A neurologists treats neuropathy. The Neuro and Biden's doctor have said he does not have Parkinson's or any neurological disorder other than neuropathy. To suggest otherwise would be to say both of these highly respected doctors are lying and part of a coverup. Again, this same Neuro has been visiting the White House as far back as 2012. This is pretty standard. Just take the L on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 It's one poll and one poll shouldn't dictate a change. One poll also doesn't fully create or dispel a narrative. But it is a good sign that Harris is polling favorably in the highly unlikely event something were to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, romad1 said: This is the takeaway They are worried that kamela will form a contrast with Trump that they can't fight. This is why they are both gameplanning for a Kamala run, and suing to try to prevent it. Edited July 11 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, mtutiger said: Ladies and Gentlemen... The front-runner Not only did Trump suggest Kamala should be Bagger Vance, but also, to me, that's not even the best part: "... if we play Augusta, we'll have to make sure she can be there." Meaning, Trump still thinks Augusta doesn't even allow colored caddies? And he has to make a phone call to convince them to do so? Edited July 11 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: Not only did Trump suggest Kamala should be Bagger Vance, but also, to me, that's not even the best part: "... if we play Augusta, we'll have to make sure she can be there." Meaning, Trump still thinks Augusta doesn't even allow colored caddies? And he has to make a phone call to convince them to do so? They don’t allow her kind at Augusta National. Democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Hongbit said: They don’t allow her kind at Augusta National. Democrat. Oh, is that what he meant? 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: Not only did Trump suggest Kamala should be Bagger Vance, but also, to me, that's not even the best part: "... if we play Augusta, we'll have to make sure she can be there." Meaning, Trump still thinks Augusta doesn't even allow colored caddies? And he has to make a phone call to convince them to do so? Nobody loves bulletin board material more than the African American base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 So caddy at Augusta isn’t one of those black jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 39 minutes ago, chasfh said: Not only did Trump suggest Kamala should be Bagger Vance, but also, to me, that's not even the best part: "... if we play Augusta, we'll have to make sure she can be there." Meaning, Trump still thinks Augusta doesn't even allow colored caddies? And he has to make a phone call to convince them to do so? It's unbelievable that we have arrived at a point where you see a quote from a presidential candidate and if you didn't know the names your first assumption would have to be that it was something George Wallace said in 1968. This is so totally sick racism that any decent person should find it revolting. I know it doesn't help anything to call out Trump supporters who lap this up as being scum, sure - they love their kids too, but they sure have developed one helluva case of amnesia regarding basic right and wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Dems keep doing it. This has just got to be self sabotage at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Dems keep doing it. This has just got to be self sabotage at this point. It's the damn twitter/tik-tok culture run amok. Everyone is compelled to cook up some statement to drive their personal click rate. The more 'seriously concerned' you can sound, the better to burnish your credential as a person of gravitas equal to the situation you are commenting on, despite the reality that you're just another piker with a smartphone. Edited July 11 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Hillary Scholten is the first Michigan Democratic national representative to call for Biden to step aside. Congresswoman Scholten is sorta in a swing district, though it's not the toss up it once was. But there seems to be a pattern of candidates and elected leaders in swing districts or swing states for the Senate calling on him to step aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Hillary Scholten is the first Michigan Democratic national representative to call for Biden to step aside. Congresswoman Scholten is sorta in a swing district, though it's not the toss up it once was. But there seems to be a pattern of candidates and elected leaders in swing districts or swing states for the Senate calling on him to step aside. You mean where they don't have the option of taking a ballot hit on the top of the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Oh, is that what he meant? 😏 He is always vague about racist comments so he can give a double message - one for his racist followers and one for those who are either not racist or don't know they are racist. Yeah, I know it's not vague, but it's worded in way that they can pretend he didn't really say it. Edited July 11 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: It's the damn twitter/tik-tok culture run amok. Everyone is compelled to cook up some statement to drive their personal click rate. The more 'seriously concerned' you can sound, the better to burnish your credential as a person of gravitas equal to the situation you are commenting on, despite the reality that you're just another piker with a smartphone. Or, just go with me here, maybe if you 1) Believe the DNC narrative that this may be our last election if Trump wins and 2) Think you can't beat Trump with Biden, maybe you should be vocal about it instead of worrying about your standing in the party? Is this not the same forum that praises Cheney and Kinzinger for speaking out against their party and mocks the rest for 'knowing Trump sucks' but just going with it? Yesterday's Bulwark had Ezra Klein on it and he stated that off the record, every major democrat he's talked to about this has told him they don't think Biden can beat Trump, but would prefer not to disrupt the apple cart and are resigned to the fact that they'll lose and just to get ready to win it back in 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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