2024 Presidential Election thread

[Tigeraholic1]

Nothing says hate the right better than ridiculing Christians. 

[Motown Bombers]

Weird, I thought saying Trump was chosen by God was ridiculing Christians. 

[Tigeraholic1]

I know Christian church services are evil and diabolical and  this is just satire I’m sure. 

 

  On 7/14/2024 at 11:33 PM, Motown Bombers said:

Weird, I thought saying Trump was chosen by God was ridiculing Christians. 

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Politico with a great hit piece nice find.

Edited July 14, 2024 by Tigeraholic1

[CMRivdogs]

  On 7/14/2024 at 11:26 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Nothing says hate the right better than ridiculing Christians. 

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I have no problems with Christians. I have a huge problem with "Christians" trying to impose their politics on everyone. From my experience one of the major problems with churches is their internal politics.

(This coming from a back pew Presbyterian with a smattering of CoB)

[CMRivdogs]

 

[mtutiger]

  On 7/14/2024 at 11:44 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

I know Christian church services are evil and diabolical and  this is just satire I’m sure. 

 

Politico with a great hit piece nice find.

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I think the allegation here is that Politico is nutpicking...I take issue with it because there were prominent evangelical leaders around the time of Trump's conviction (Eric Metaxas comes to mind) who literally compared Trump to Christ being crucified.

I don't know how prominent it is, but the idea that there aren't corners of the movement who are engaging in this kind of stuff, there's history to suggest that it isn't surprising that some are

Edited July 15, 2024 by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 7/15/2024 at 12:12 AM, mtutiger said:

I think the allegation here is that Politico is nutpicking...I take issue with it because there were prominent evangelical leaders around the time of Trump's conviction (Eric Metaxas comes to mind) who literally compared Trump to Christ being crucified.

I don't know how prominent it is, but the idea that there aren't corners of the movement who are engaging in this kind of stuff, there's history to suggest that it isn't surprising that some are

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Evangelical does not represent me as I am not one. The hit side comes from lumping all Christians as viewing Trump this way and ratcheting up the perceived justified hate. 

[mtutiger]

  On 7/14/2024 at 11:52 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I have no problems with Christians. I have a huge problem with "Christians" trying to impose their politics on everyone. From my experience one of the major problems with churches is their internal politics.

(This coming from a back pew Presbyterian with a smattering of CoB)

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There are also differences between Christian denominations, and a breakdown in Separation of Church and State would inevitably lead to the government picking "winners and losers" on that front.

IIRC, Louisiana's 10 Commandments Bill has stipulations on which version of the Bible must be used. Not particularly controversial, but one can understand how hairy that can get if taken further on different pieces of legislation 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[pfife]

Libs of Tick Tock?   Get a grip bro

[gehringer_2]

  On 7/15/2024 at 12:30 AM, mtutiger said:

Not particularly controversial,

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Not sure I agree. Translations generate a pretty fair amount of controversy within and across denominations.  Even in as short a text as the TC, the KJV mis-translates (at least by almost universal agreement) "Murder" as "Kill", which creates a starting point for endless digression.

[pfife]

Unified Reich on Unified Reich crime is a scourge in this country

[Tiger337]

  On 7/14/2024 at 11:52 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I have no problems with Christians. I have a huge problem with "Christians" trying to impose their politics on everyone. From my experience one of the major problems with churches is their internal politics.

(This coming from a back pew Presbyterian with a smattering of CoB)

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I think when Christianity gets linked to politics, it loses a lot of spiritualism.  In order for ones faith to be something special, I think it needs to be above politics.  

[mtutiger]

  On 7/15/2024 at 1:05 AM, gehringer_2 said:

Not sure I agree. Translations generate a pretty fair amount of controversy within and across denominations.  Even in as short a text as the TC, the KJV mis-translates (at least by almost universal agreement) "Murder" as "Kill", which creates a starting point for endless digression.

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Comment was more about controversy within Louisiana, although with the mix of Catholicism and Evangelicalism that exists there, you'd think it matters at least a little bit

[mtutiger]

 

[mtutiger]

  On 7/14/2024 at 10:29 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 

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Actual member of Congress now more or less using this line...

[Tigermojo]

  On 7/15/2024 at 2:46 AM, mtutiger said:

Actual member of Congress now more or less using this line...

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Spared Reagan for the Billionaires and Trump for the Trillionaires?

[chasfh]

  On 7/15/2024 at 12:22 AM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Evangelical does not represent me as I am not one. The hit side comes from lumping all Christians as viewing Trump this way and ratcheting up the perceived justified hate. 

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If Evangelicals don’t represent you, then please try not to take offense at criticisms of them, even if they’re referred to by the blanket term “Christians.” It’s almost always the Evangelicals being referred to, which you can probably deduce from context clues.

[chasfh]

  On 7/15/2024 at 1:56 AM, Tiger337 said:

I think when Christianity gets linked to politics, it loses a lot of spiritualism.  In order for ones faith to be something special, I think it needs to be above politics.  

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Absolutely right. When Christians impose their worldview on politics, they become worldly.

[gehringer_2]

  On 7/15/2024 at 12:22 AM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Evangelical does not represent me as I am not one. The hit side comes from lumping all Christians as viewing Trump this way and ratcheting up the perceived justified hate. 

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The non-evangelical denominational leaderships are sort of a in box over this. Most (though not all of course...)  have been hesitant to call out the political wing of Christianity in public (for many good reason which I won't go into here), but is does leave a void in the public conciousness there there is still a Christianity beyond the people they hear about in the news - which is of course the political wing. That's something that non-Evangelicals sort of have to live with.....

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[Dan Gilmore]

Right. There are millions of Christians that are not right wing or evangelical.  Lots of liberals and centerists. 

[pfife]

I'm so sad that the troll that insults folks here regularly walked into hurt feefees 

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 7/15/2024 at 3:21 AM, pfife said:

I'm so sad that the troll that insults folks here regularly walked into hurt feefees 

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Awe, the guy who posts on the sports forum about everything but sports has opinion. Cute.

[pfife]

  On 7/15/2024 at 5:23 AM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Awe, the guy who posts on the sports forum about everything but sports has opinion. Cute.

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Says the guy whining about his religion...  on a sports forum. 

 

[pfife]

It's also the height of hypocrisy for you to whine about YOUR religion after supporting the dozens and dozens of antisemtic videos MB posted.   Apparently your religion deserves special treatment you fail to afford to others. 

Even weirder  you do that on a sports forum. 

Edited July 15, 2024 by pfife