romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said: This is an insecure man. The type that will never ever respsect women. So go vote for Republicans. You know, the party that wants to erase Africa off of the Atlas (where exactly does the Atlantic Ocean become the Indian Ocean? Seems like the differents would usually be caused by a large land mass but there is none. The party that wants to replace the word "slavery" with "involuntary relocation", the party that wants to erase Civil Rights. Okay, go ahead. All because you're afraid of women. That part about Africa being airbrushed off the maps has a feeling of authenticity to it but I can't recall where I saw that. Its the kind of thing that Trumpies and MAGAs would do with sharpies showing paths of hurricanes that don't exist or blocking the USS John McCain because Trump thought he was not good for being a POW. Because Trump and his friends and voters appear to lack any human decency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: A lot of the drunks I've met started drinking because they understand what's going on. SNORT! Man...there is the entire basis for a standup set in that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 12 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I will wait for you to give us your cubicle gov't employee dissertation. oh looky here, he thinks he's middle management material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, romad1 said: That part about Africa being airbrushed off the maps has a feeling of authenticity to it but I can't recall where I saw that. Its the kind of thing that Trumpies and MAGAs would do with sharpies showing paths of hurricanes that don't exist or blocking the USS John McCain because Trump thought he was not good for being a POW. Because Trump and his friends and voters appear to lack any human decency. Black voters are like fetuses to Republicans. They love the fetus until it becomes the child and then it's "**** you, we're cutting school lunch vouchers, we're cutting funding, we're erasing child labor laws". Once the vote is over and those Black voters just because citizens, well, it's basically "**** you, we'll see you in 4 years". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 Choosing to come here and post incessantly about Vice President Harris not getting any primary votes the day after Trump said you won't have to vote again in 4 years is so rich it's 2017 tax cut doesn't expire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oblong Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: If she were to win Florida I wonder what tricks Desantis will try. But maybe he will go along as a final FU to Donald for making fun of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 I heard on C-SPAN that they have an abortion ban proposition and a weed proposition in Florida this year so there's optimism that those initiatives could help Vice President Kamala Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Democrats treat Florida like it's Idaho. It was Trump +3 and Trump +1 in 2016. Michigan was Biden +3 and there have been 9 statewide elections since 2016 and Dems have won them all. Republican don't concede Michigan the way Dems concede Florida. Desantis and Scott both won in 2018 by less than half a point. Desantis popularity is declining and Florida has an insurance crisis. With the ballot initiatives it's worth putting some effort into. You also have an opportunity to flip a senate seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: All the mentioned above are entertainers. Did somebody think they are some kind of reporters? If they are entertainers, why is their opinion of value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 To the extent that points matter, I thought this one from bluesky was strong: https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3kybizdd67e2f One easy way to tell that Kamala Harris was not the “border czar”—as Stan Veuger wisely points out on Twitter—is that 214 House Republicans voted to impeach *a different cabinet member* over the border situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 31 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Democrats treat Florida like it's Idaho. It was Trump +3 and Trump +1 in 2016. Michigan was Biden +3 and there have been 9 statewide elections since 2016 and Dems have won them all. Republican don't concede Michigan the way Dems concede Florida. Desantis and Scott both won in 2018 by less than half a point. Desantis popularity is declining and Florida has an insurance crisis. With the ballot initiatives it's worth putting some effort into. You also have an opportunity to flip a senate seat. DeSantis barely won his first election as governor, right? 49.59% to 49.19%. Forida voted for Clinton in 1996 and Obama in 2008 and 2012. A state like Florida is where the right VP pick might make a difference. I think Mark Kelly would certainly play well there. When Howard Dean was the DNC Chair, he went strong after states like Florida and Indiana and a few others that lean Republican but certainly weren't deep red and his 50-state strategy in 2010 was fantastic. He didn't concede anything like the current Democrats have. Hillary didn't even go to Wisconsin in 2016. Thought it was in the bag. They need to bring Dean back into this. He's a fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I will wait for you to give us your cubicle gov't employee dissertation. Wow. That’s a really crummy answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Wow. That’s a really crummy answer. Meh, i really hate working in a cubicle but i wouldn’t trade relevant work for selling potato chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) I just posted in the investment thread that the Fed's favorite inflation gauge - released yesterday for June - the "PCE" was up 2.5% year over year and 0.1% for the month. That keeps the Fed on track for a rate cut. That will be one more thing for Trump to burn up bits on Truth Social about (and Harris to campaign on.) 🤣 Edited July 27 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 13 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: He went on one of his off script riffs and let this slip out. WTF!! This needs to get pushed to the front of the news cycle and reporters need to keep hammering him to explain exactly what this means. This can’t just go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Hongbit said: He went on one of his off script riffs and let this slip out. WTF!! This needs to get pushed to the front of the news cycle and reporters need to keep hammering him to explain exactly what this means. This can’t just go away. Yeah, he wants to use the theocrats to enable the kleptocrats who will help him be an autocrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, romad1 said: Deep-seated fears of a Trump autocracy have led me to this path. It started when I first saw him in a debate in 2015 and I thought "nobody could be this stupid and still have so many people cheering him on" but then I saw the people cheering him on. His background in professional wrestling and his association with Playboy magazine were things I felt would be handicaps but the rubes loved him. That scared me a lot. It indicated that the base of the Republican Party was damaged. I looked across the aisle at the democrats and they also seemed chaotic but there was always an appeal to reason in their sometimes-emotional responses to issues. I started seeing the crazy manipulative messages in online fora. I saw them in the firearms community which I participated. You couldn't go very far without some discussion about the government taking your weapons. Then 2016 came and I didn't love Hillary. She is and always seemed like Richard Nixon in female form. I voted third party in the 2016 election assuming she would win. Watching my wife lose the first chance at a female president was shattering for her. I grieved for her pain. And to lose to such a hustling liar. We spent 4 of the most painful years with him as president. I worked in a field where I engaged with presidential threats that crossed over from Obama to Trump. The threats changed from unhinged racists ones against POTUS to unhinged racist threats against the people who didn't support "our president." And of course you were around, so you saw how terrible he was on the World stage. He hated our allies. He tried to create rifts where none needed to exist. He actively denigrated alliances. He curried favor with his benefactor in the 2016 elections Vladimir Putin, he leaked classified intelligence programs from the Israelis. He empowered the rise of a warlike PRC and his response with some whack-a-mole tariffs allowed corrupt people to game them so that instead of goods being traded at value they were sold below value to a country like Argentina which then in turn pivoted and sold them (still under market value) to the PRC. His response to COVID 19 was a nightmare of bungling and he created the conditions where statistically many hundreds of thousands more people died because they resisted the correct responses to a pandemic. Then the George Floyd response. He didn't offer respect to the people angry at the murder. Nah dog...i'm going to turn it into a cosplay autocracy where we have the Gadsden Flag-plated late model pickups bestrewn with NRA and firearms manufacturer stickers unloading their deputized Bureau of Prisons employee owners so they can don body army and face shields so they stand in phalanx on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Because that's what Lincoln would have wanted: a protest turned into a bloody riot. (Irony) So, that misery finally ends with the restoration of decency with a Biden win. Oh, but Trump can't abide that. He insists that Mike Pence carry out an end run on Democracy and install him for another term. So, he gets his rabble to storm the Capitol and tells that group of intellectual heroes that Mike Pence is responsible. And being a rabble they show up with a gallows and proceed to storm the building defecating in the offices of Nancy Pelosi. She of course is also the victim of an assassination attempt later when one of his devotees arrives at her home and tries to nail her husband's head to the floor. This is of course cheered on by Trump's cocaine-fueled son and his other followers because decency is for the other guys. Trump is eventually required to leave office. He begrudgingly does but not before he takes cartons and cartons of highly sensitive classified documents to his Florida golf club/rental property. These documents include details of operations and sources and methods. Revealing the details will in fact lead to the death of programs and people who put their lives and well-being on the line to carry them out. He is caught in this act and fights tooth and nail any effort to return the documents. Then Trump's friend decides that its time to rebuild the Soviet Union and invades Ukraine. Because Trump is not president the people of Ukraine are able to mount a spirited resistance and they are able through the spirit of the nationhood and the support of the NATO alliance resist Putin. Trump hates this because most of his fortune after his multiple bankruptcies was from Russia. Trump is never seen as happy in public as when he is with Putin. Tweedledumb and Tweedleevil Biden and his team have a competency about foreign affairs. He rallies NATO and allows NATO and the EU to help the Ukrainians. Their war grinds the once-vaunted (and believe me I at one time studied the Russian mil closely) armed forces down to where they are conscripting 60-year old men and prisoners. Putin being Putin he arrests American reporters and others so he can use them as trade chips. Trump deciding that he can ignore the Logan Act and says he can get these people out of Putin's jails because he has a special relationship and that he would end the war in Ukraine very quickly...because he would remove the United States from NATO. Which his attempts to do so in his first term are very well documented. So, now we are at the stage where Biden is old. He appears to have lost a step. And the perception of that is as damaging as the reality. So, his trusted understudy appears and she is everything that Trump hates: female, African-American, prosecutor, Californian, a believer in systems of Democracy and the Rule of Law. And for me the "two Corinthians" of an effective system of Democracy is the Rule of Law. If you don't have it you are NOTHING. I hope that bumper sticker of a post tidied it up for you. Bad time to run our of likes, but like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 48 minutes ago, romad1 said: Meh, i really hate working in a cubicle but i wouldn’t trade relevant work for selling potato chips. Snort! Which is EXACTLY what our now former Secret Service director was doing! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, The Ronz said: Great post Romad! It is still shocking to me that so many people are quite simply that Un-American. That's the rub: these people think they are the most American, and you're not. I wonder whether they think of their patriotism in the same way they think of their born-again Christianity. Born-agains believe that only the blood of Jesus can save you and and it's the only way you can go to heaven. Good works don't matter. In fact, born-agains deride the idea of people thinking that good works make a difference. Instead, they just profess that they are "saved", and once you profess this, you've punched your ticket to heaven, and only explicitly rejecting Christ, and nothing else, will forfeit that ticket. That's why Catholics fret about going to heaven and evangelicals don't: Catholics are constantly worried they'll end up in h-e-double toothpicks on some technicality they aren't aware of. Born-agains have no such fear. Because of this, there is no incentive for born-agains to act morally or perform good acts because, as it relates to their salvation, doing so doesn't matter. They are already saved and going to heaven no matter what. I'm not saying that all born-agains see accepting Jesus as a welcome license to sin, although probably some do. And I would bet many try to become better people once they have been saved because they truly believe that is what Jesus expects of them now. But whether you continue to sin freely or try to avoid doing so, once you are sanctified in the blood of Jesus, your actions mean literally nothing to your afterlife status. This is how an entire town of born-agains could participate in or enjoy watching a hideous lynching on Saturday night, then comfortably go to church and praise Jesus the next morning, and not feel even the slightest pang of guilt. The way they act on a day-to-day basis doesn't factor into their salvation, so they can neatly compartmentalize those parts of their lives away from each other. So I wonder whether they think of their patriotism in this same way, where all they have to do is profess their love of Trump, pledge allegiance to a flag, and sing Lee Greenwood songs, and that makes them a pristine patriot who cannot be besmirched. Then anything they say or do that appears to undermine the principles upon which America was founded and which has been shaped across more than two centuries doesn't matter. U.S. leaves NATO? Yes, please. Pull all support from Ukraine and let Russia have it? Of course, it's not our problem, and Russia is a better ally than those commie NATO nations anyway. Help Israel destroy Gaza and everything and everyone in it? We must, the Bible has foretold it. Suspend the Constitution? OK if Mr. Trump needs to. Eliminate future elections? Mr. Trump is in control so what do we even need elections for anymore? None of this ignites even the slightest pang of guilt in them, because they are patriots, and anything they do, say, or profess to believe doe snot factor into their level of patriotism. They have been saved. And that's all the counts. I wonder whether this hypothesis holds any water? I'm guessing a few people here will be glad to tell me why it doesn't, or at least to pick something to whatabout me on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Please, if you wish explain the threat to Democracy here. Remember: republic, not democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Snort! Which is EXACTLY what our now former Secret Service director was doing! 🤣 I had some interesting news about that from the USSS folks I know. Apparently they had to deputize a bunch of Homeland Security Investigations and other DHS entity people to work that event because of the RNC creating a sinkhole of manpower (amirite GRINDR fans). Well, anyone who relies on HSI people and the Bureau of Prisons and the like for a very specialized role will have such a result. But, they scared off those negros from the Lincoln Memorial I guess so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 55 minutes ago, romad1 said: wow I will also allow "America's Goering". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, chasfh said: I will also allow "America's Goering". Goering was a drug-addled but, smart fattie. JD Vance...putting my finger on it...isn't quite that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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